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St. Patrick's Day? (Please read topic).
  Who cares?/Just an excuse to get plastered.
  Christian victory over evil! Yay!
  A negative holiday -- it furthers religious intolerance.
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Yvaine

PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 6:29 am


I'm in ur circle! I'm killing ur druidz!!!11!!!
PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 9:19 am


Yvaine
I'm in ur circle! I'm killing ur druidz!!!11!!!


Okay, that was funny, but I do feel a major need to post in here.

The legend about St. Patrick "driving the snakes out of Ireland" is exactly that, a legend. There are no historical accounts of Pat actually killing these people. However, the OTHER thing he's famous for may shed some light on this. The reason the shamrock is such a symbol of St. Patrick and the Irish is because he used it in a lesson explaining the Holy Trinity, how there could be three but have all of them actually be the same one. Perhaps this helped him convert some of the Pagans (which would also kind of "drive them out", don't you think?)

As for the holiday in modern times, many people revel in it as an excuse to wear green (even if it looks horrible on them) and get absolutely hammered. Some people use it to celebrate Irish heritage (sadly, I'm mostly Scot/Brit). Heck, if you wanted to pull Pagans back into the holiday, you could think of it as an early start to Ostara or use the day to research or honor Irish gods.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 12:21 pm


Azana Brown
Yvaine
I'm in ur circle! I'm killing ur druidz!!!11!!!


Okay, that was funny, but I do feel a major need to post in here.

The legend about St. Patrick "driving the snakes out of Ireland" is exactly that, a legend. There are no historical accounts of Pat actually killing these people. However, the OTHER thing he's famous for may shed some light on this. The reason the shamrock is such a symbol of St. Patrick and the Irish is because he used it in a lesson explaining the Holy Trinity, how there could be three but have all of them actually be the same one. Perhaps this helped him convert some of the Pagans (which would also kind of "drive them out", don't you think?)

As for the holiday in modern times, many people revel in it as an excuse to wear green (even if it looks horrible on them) and get absolutely hammered. Some people use it to celebrate Irish heritage (sadly, I'm mostly Scot/Brit). Heck, if you wanted to pull Pagans back into the holiday, you could think of it as an early start to Ostara or use the day to research or honor Irish gods.


I'm going to have to beg to differ. There has been some discoveries made of violence during the period Patrick was in Ireland. Were there a ton of deaths? No. But there were some. Particularly among the older people. I mean, not everyone's going to be converted. Especially the traditionalists.
There was also a lot of religious site and artifact desecration.
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