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 Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 9:00 pm
Oh, he's being tolerant of it. He's just not being accepting of it. There is an important difference here.
Tolerance means that I'm not going to go on a violent crusade against you because you believe in things that don't exist. He's tolerant of those unfortunates who believe Indigo Children exist. As am I. However, we aren't ACCEPTING of them, because there's no reason to be. We disagree, and we have the right to express that, without being labeled "intolerant".
Tolerance is a good thing, an essential thing, that's why this guild exists. However, acceptance is not the same thing. Lack of acceptance is what's keeping UnIntelligent Design out of our schools, and I'm damn skippy that it is.
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Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 6:51 pm
I also think it is just an excuse for people to act like brats...no offense to anybody...
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 7:06 am
I do not believe that ADD, or ADHD actually exist. I have met with, conversed with, and in some cases, formed lasting friendships with people who apparently have this "dis-order". It has the repugnant quality of the human inability to recognize diversity is normal, until their eyes get time to focus. (Usually hundreds of years thousands of years, in the case of homosexuality for example). The people who actually have been "diagnosed" with the disorder have in almost all cases reported that the drugs, (dexamphetamines, etc.) have no effect on them. One said; "Well, I don't feel any different, but how do I know that they have worked or not? I have not had access to an alternate universe, where I in fact, did not take the drugs, so whether I propound that the drugs worked, or conversely, did not work, is always uncertain. 'K?"
"I'm gay"
"That's not normal, you must have something wrong with you."
"You have ADHD/ADD"
"You're not like the rest of us, you have something wrong with you, I shall now proceed to give you dexamphetamines, so you can be like us. (which I can conveniently charge you for.)"
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 4:48 pm
You've got a point mate. But can you PROOVE that ADD/ADHD doesn't exist, scientifically? I am in no way disagreeing with you, Rettu. But there are people, like me, who believes that it does. *shrugs* To me these are just theories that you have come up with based on peeps you have talked to. Personally, I was on Ritalin, results? It worked for me. Do I still take it now? No. Why? Firstly as an adult I have other conditions going on (Bipolar, pregnancy), so therefore I cannot take the drug. Secondly, I can control my hyperactivity to some extent now. Okay, there have been occasions, am not disputing that. But with other factors, like diet and lifestyle, ADD/ADHD can more or less be controlled, just like any other disorder/disease. Yes these are only MY theories. They don't gel or work with everyone.
Also, in relation to Indigo Children (for this thread really is about Indigo, not ADD/ADHD). Do you think Indigo Children exist?AspergersKitty I also think it is just an excuse for people to act like brats...no offense to anybody...
"Oh my child is so special, cause s/he can do this, and s/he can do that. So I will lavish my child with toys and sweets, even if they throw a tantrum so that they become a burden to soceity later on in life!"
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:30 pm
Well, it's a little difficult to prove it does exist, and is not merely a type of personality that differs from the norm. The point I was trying to make is, they thought people who were gay had something wrong with them once. So, I was just attempting to cast reasonable doubt as to whether the disorder exists, or does not.
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 5:36 pm
Yes, homosexuality is still seen as an illness, even in certain faiths, and that it needs to be cured. I do see where you are coming from. However, if something is difficult to proove that something exists then it's also difficult to proove that it doesn't, then again that's just my philosophy on theories.
Hell there are scientists, psychologists, theoloigans and new ageists (is that right?), that are having these very debates right now, am sure.
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 8:20 pm
Many religons are haveing this debate as well, I'm sure, but rather more... Forcefully.
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Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 6:31 pm
Yes the good ole 'witch trials'. "If you don't believe in this or that I will destroy you" type s**t.
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Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 7:33 pm
In the words of some guy;
X biggrin o you believe in God?
Y: Yes
X: Do you believe in my God?
Y: No
*Blam!*
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 2:04 am
I read something long ago when I was becoming aware of colors I saw around people (aura's?) that ran into Indigo children (named because the children have an indigo aura) They said something like erm... (grasping at faded memory, sorry if it's kinda... incorrect ^-^*) that a theory is that these indigo children aren't necessarily special (so parent's need to quit spoiling their d~ kids) but just show earlier signs of Evolution? It was very interesting to me. I believe that indigo children do exist (in the fact that I've seen people with purple aura's) but as far as them being effing amazing or super special or whatever, I'm skeptical on.
Did I just go completely off topic? I'm sorry if any of this is inaccurate. I'm going by memory of what I learned a couple years back, not by the link (too lazy) XP
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:18 pm
i have predicted and felt many things that came true, does that meen im indigo?
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 5:27 pm
Yes, you may have a point there.
However, parents always want to see the best in their children, and if they had an opportunity to believe that, rather than a dis-order, their children were 'special', then they would do it in an instant.
Also, I think you need to type a little slower at the start of your posts :/
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 5:24 pm
Yes, that's a good point.
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