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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 8:18 am
I think your first question is insanely unfair. Everyone has the right to complain about anything that makes them sad, hurt, angry, and/or uncomfortable. Looks count nowadays, sadly, and too skinny is a look.
I know that they get teased, because I had a cousin who was very thin like that. I even confronted her a couple of times, asking if she was anerexic or bolemic (I know I can't spell those xp ). But I will also say, she had more friends, boyfriends, and admirers than me, and seemed much happier in school than I did. I think that even though they are teased, they make friends more easily, because society overall is more accepting of too thin people than too fat people.
Society will always need a hiarchy. White over black, skinny over fat, male over female. Once one gets on the road to being solved, another intensifies. I think that men and women are becoming more equal, so race and weight are becoming more of a problem. It's pretty screwed up, but I think there will always be something.
Yes. I mentioned my cousin earlier. I asked her because she was severely underweight and losing, and I kept finding weird medicines in her room (like a half-full bottle of Pepto). Also she would refuse to eat meals sometimes. I was worried about her, and confronted her whenever I would find something like that, out of love.
As for some of the comments I've seen:
I believe anyone who is upset about their body (or has a [as I think of them] 'alternative body style' and loves it, and wants to share that with others) has every single right to go to any site and ask for help, or share their worries and sadness, or even just say "We're all so beautiful, I'm glad there's a place to go, where other people have these problems." Being severely overweight, (5'2'', 360 pounds), I find more and more than I can relate to anyone with an eating disorder, wether they're overweight like me, or underweight. And I think that as someone with an eating disorder, I should embrace and have compassion for anyone else with one, as well. It's unfair to say that they shouldn't be allowed, or that it's rude for them to go on FA site. Perhaps they were going there in hopes of being understood, or finding a secret tip to gain weight. Whatever might have been said, you don't know what their motives for joining was.
And about what Chachamaru said, that's very true. I'm sure it's true for all skinny, attractive people with a thing for chubby/fat people, because it is intimidating to go ask someone you like out, especially if you feel like they're miles out of your league. That in itself, however innocent, is discrimination against skinny people. We assume that they're too full of themselves to give someone that's not socially sexy a chance :3
When you said (Dread Pirate) that about fat girls having it worse, I do have to agree, not because I don't think skinny girls can't have it bad, but because it's being proven more and more often now that fat people, fat women especially, are paid less, promoted less, and hired to new jobs less. So even if people are nice to us, we're still discriminated against based on looks.
Sorry, I was reading comments backwards xd Hope I didn't tread on any toes o.o
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 7:05 pm
I'm afraid it seems several people don't get that I'm asking the question as a way of saying "Hey, think about this... some people really feel this way, this isn't right" *sigh* I really thought that my sarcasm was blatantly obvious.
I agree everyone has a right to complain, unless it's like my friends saying "eww, I'm so fat" to my face, and gripping onto their tiny little stomachs and pulling some fat out of nowhere... then telling me to my face "You're not fat" when I ask them "What about me?"
But if I didn't think skinny girls had every right to complain, I probably wouldn't have bothered posting this topic to bring it to people's attention that "Hey, this is ******** up and maybe not something you think about every day"
But I could never go up to a girl who I barely knew, which many of the girls I mentioned didn't seem to know the person, and ask. If I had a friend who I noticed was eating less than normal, always saying she was fat and becoming dangerously skinny I would ask her... but a random girl on the street I would not tell to eat a burger or "real women have curves."
Luckily, I don't know any girls with eating disorders.
I've never really experienced a skinny girl going into a plus sized group and complaining about not being liked, the worst I see is "Am I fat?" followed by tons of photos of a skinny girl.
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Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 1:53 pm
We have a couple of skinny girls in my guild x3 Well we used to>.> A lot of members went inactive gonk But I don't think we've ever had 'omg iyem phatttttttttttttt' from them :3 And if I remember correctly, when Mimisi's was still new, we actually had a girl trying to figure out how to gain x3 <3 Bless her surprised lol
I think the reason most people don't understand your sarcasm, is because most people have already seen it or at least thought about it. It's not the hardest of things to wrap one's mind around 3nodding I'm sure at least once in our lives, every single one of us has seen a skinny girl get picked on. (Saw a funny fight once, but I won't go in to that xd Let's just say the dumb girl was whoring around and messed around with a very mean, tough black girl o.o Funniest one-sided fight I ever saw xd heart )
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Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 2:26 pm
I actually think it's very rare I've ever seen a skinny girl get picked on. In fact, I never have... but I knew some skinny girls who wished they could gain some weight.
I actually suspect it's more because it seems most people like getting offended before fully understanding what the person is saying >>; Such as the person who didn't even finish reading my post before jumping to conclusions.
I know I've done it once or twice in this guild where even reading the full post I've misjuged, but it's still depresses me that what I think of as obvious sarcasm isn't.
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Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 3:15 pm
I can't really say that I've ever confronted a skinny girl that I didn't know and asked them if they had an eating disorder, but I have confronted one of my friends about it years back. She was constantly going to the bathroom after meals and belittling herself, I actually remember her saying that the reason why her boyfriend broke up with her was because she was fat.(not even thinking that hey, maybe because he was cheating on her XP) She weighed at the time probably about 105lbs on a 5'4" frame. Yeah.
She indeed did have a problem, and though she still has issues with self-image, she's put on some healthy weight. I'm glad that she's not skin and bones anymore. ^^
I'd have to say it's hard for everyone to feel beautiful these days, fat and thin. It's really unfair, because the only way in that twisted game to become "perfect" is to perform the impossible, because the goal will change with every passing day. It sucks I tell you. confused
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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 7:44 am
The Dread Pirate Ghosty I actually think it's very rare I've ever seen a skinny girl get picked on. In fact, I never have... but I knew some skinny girls who wished they could gain some weight.
I actually suspect it's more because it seems most people like getting offended before fully understanding what the person is saying >>; Such as the person who didn't even finish reading my post before jumping to conclusions.
I know I've done it once or twice in this guild where even reading the full post I've misjuged, but it's still depresses me that what I think of as obvious sarcasm isn't. Hmm you could try using italics whenever possible durring sarcasm, so people will stop and think. Usually people...how to phrase?>.> Speak in italics when they're being sarcastic, so why not type in italics? whee Hope that didn't sound weird sweatdrop
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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 9:23 am
Mimisi Setsuai The Dread Pirate Ghosty I actually think it's very rare I've ever seen a skinny girl get picked on. In fact, I never have... but I knew some skinny girls who wished they could gain some weight.
I actually suspect it's more because it seems most people like getting offended before fully understanding what the person is saying >>; Such as the person who didn't even finish reading my post before jumping to conclusions.
I know I've done it once or twice in this guild where even reading the full post I've misjuged, but it's still depresses me that what I think of as obvious sarcasm isn't. Hmm you could try using italics whenever possible durring sarcasm, so people will stop and think. Usually people...how to phrase?>.> Speak in italics when they're being sarcastic, so why not type in italics? whee Hope that didn't sound weird sweatdrop lol, yeah... I use italics too, but when my whole post is a big long sarcastic thing I don't feel like it.
I think I'll just stick to not making sarcastic threads that people will find offensive even though I'm on their side gonk
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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 5:44 pm
lol xd Or you cuold just italisize the whole thing? xd Then in tiny white font write: "Italics is for sarcasm, dipshit mad "
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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 6:23 pm
lol, I should do that.
Even in real life, apparently my obvious sarcasm is not so obvious to everyone else.
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Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 4:11 pm
i think any person, judging by the amount of kindness they give, or the pain they have felt is worthy of pity and does not deserve to be made fun of HOWEVER, the amount of kindness must equal or surpass the amount of mental and emotional anguish although that sounds like a god-like request, how can anyone know someone elses pain?
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Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 6:29 pm
God, I really have a lot of things I want to say right now, but they're mainly extremely insults towards you ghosty. I'll just say that you're slowly getting more and more on my bad side with some of the things you say.
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Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 7:53 pm
I don't really know what I've been saying that is so horrible anywhere around here... as I joined this guild mostly to try to help other girls gain the confidence I got... because I know how hard it is being a fat girl and having family and peers instill self-loathing in oneself...and it was a long, hard road for me.
In fact, I believe my last topic that went anywhere was me drawing members of the guild, and I haven't been responding to many topics as there haven't been many.
I hope you read my whole post as well as my later comments, because many people did not read or understand the sarcasm... Which is why I was glad to have this thread die and I learned my lesson about trying to make something other than a whiny post about my weight or the challenges of being a fat girl so that people would tell me how cute I am and s**t.
I totally love skinny girls, I totally think they have every right to complain... I was hoping to get some of the girls here to realize that the grass isn't always greener on the other side.
What kind of horrible b***h am I to make a topic hoping to get other people to think about how maybe some people they envy envy them, and that nobody's life is perfect, no matter what size, and that they should be confident in themselves and maybe try to see things from somebody else's perspective. I mean, I already feel bad due to issues in my personal life right now, which I realize nobody gives a s**t about so I'm not going into in the guild, but I totally needed to be attacked over the internet. If you don't like me you could at least be mature enough to keep it to yourself or bring up your problem with me over PM, maybe you'd realize you've been misunderstanding me this whole time.
This is why this guild is dying, because true discussion past "Am I hawt?" is rewarded with unwarranted hate due to misunderstanding.
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Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 8:33 pm
No, I read your posts, and your later comments, and sarcasm is a second language to me, I just feel like you're mistaking candor for ignorance.
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