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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 8:47 am
Katsumoto_Ryusaki89 Weed Unit Under Blue Sky Katsumoto_Ryusaki89 Their Paranoia is no excuse to close their minds to a conclusion. I hate closeminded people. They are jerks, stupid and sore losers. I always have arguements with people online who are too closeminded to even give a damn about my explanation. Once I do get a "critical hit" on them, they shower me with flames. Thats the same problem with us. The people are too stupid to realize that their rallies and s**t are ruining this country. So what if they are too paranoid to realize that? I don't give a damn. The mere fact that they have already closed their minds to this stupid rally and not know the consequences of their actions is just stupid. If they want to have a good country, then they should get rid of their paranoia and not just go "Kurakot alis!" once a situation has arrived. The closemindedness of people is just stupid. I can't understand why you have to close your idea on a topic on impulse. I have seen people hear the hello garci ringtone once and say "Kurakot ampota.". Have they analyzed the situation? Have they questioned the facts? Have they heard the story of both sides? No they haven't. In fact, They have just listened to an unreliable source and just concluded it. Now THAT is stupid. People rally because they have the right. People rally because they bring out a message. People rally because they are tired and have sufferred enough. With everything that happenned to our nation, its people are really getting paranoid. Our presidents are getting to the point that they are pushing to the limits. They squander money and rob good-hearted people of their money. Now, they rob votes to get power. If the president is the one doing that, then isn't there people lower than the president who would also do crimes like that. That could mean that her allies and cronies in her government can be corrupt or the "opposition" party could be corrupt. Also, if you think about these people who rally and how they think or live, this is the only thing they can do. They pobably have to go to work on foot since how GMA administration is freaking stupid on handling things. What good is a rally if it only brings MORE suffering. If they truly suffered enough, then shouldn't they just keep away from all things that cause suffering? EDSA I was a good rally because Marcos has stolen something very important to us, freedom. Now then, these rallies, are they fighting for something worthwhile? What are they fighting for? No they are not fighting for freedome because noone took it. Instead they are ABUSING the FREEDOM. They thought "Hey lets rally because EDSA I and II worked and nothing will happen to us anyway because nothing happened to the People of EDSA I and nothing will ever go wrong anyway it just stays the same.". Are they SURE of that? These people just closed their minds to the THEORY that ALL RALLIES WORK. They are fighting for something they "thought" happened. They "thought" GMA corrupted votes for other candidates. Maybe they misinterpreted the message of GMA. I saw someone on TV, holding a picket sign "GMA Aliss ka diyan. Kurap ka". Has she really corrupted ANYTHING? No. She just apologized for informally calling a Comelec official about her votes. However, this guy here thought that GMA said "Akin na mga boto ni FPJ! HAHAHAH!!" or something. All these s**t happening to our country, is only because of the abuse of freedom and the closemindedness of the people. I only wish that these would lessen for the better. I seem to agree to both of your sides. People really because they want to express and release their opinions, feelings, and their side in the situation. They have the right to do that because it makes them feel it "might" do something. They want to show that they can't take anymore and that it is affecting them. Rallying seems to "calm" spirits and minds because it might feel as if you released your anger, though not really doing anything useful for the whole country. But then again, Katsumoto is right. Gloria has not really revealed that she cheated on the votes. People HAVE misinterpreted her statement. They think she DID cheat on the votes and she is corrupt and does not deserve to be president. She COULD have done something really bad in the past, but I don't think the rallyists have the right to say something false or has not been proven. That's libel AND slander. They should see if it's true THEN that's when they have the complete right to rally.
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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 4:50 am
When she said that the tapes were authentic, she already meant that all the conversations inside of it are true also.
Try to check out the stickies concerning the conversations para we can set the record straight
mabuhay
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 10:37 pm
`keNj *claps..claps..*
may mga katanungan ako..
buti may oras pa na magrally ang mga yan?!?!
ako nga e...minsan ala ng oras para kumain dahil sa daming schoolwork... kung madami nga clang free time at syempre pera na panggawa ng mga banners nila...inggit ako... biruin nyo...kulang na nga ako sa time, kulang pa sa pera... tapos sila pa ang nagrereklamo??? scream
at hindi rin ba sila napapagod? hassle yata yan!
at ano ba ang feeling nila sa EDSA Revolution? concert na masarap ulit-ulitin?? Well, people really sacrifice everything for what they believe in even if it takes not having food in the table three times a day. Nakakaawa lang kasi if they belive in something and do something for a wrong cause, it will be their undoing. Naaawa ako sa masa kasi sila ang ginagamit usually in rallies and doon sa rally namimigay sila ng pagkain kaya madaming masa ang pumupunta. Imagine! They are manipulating the people's mind, poisoning them just like giving them arsenic or something. Nakakaawa lang talaga.
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Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:27 am
I wonder.. Kasi pansin ko, bakit parang halos pare-pareho lang tayo ng mga point of views, bakit yung mga 'others' na iyan ay parang iba ata ang takbo ng utak. Ano ba ang meron sa kanila na wala satin? Ano ba ang meron satin na wala sa kanila?
Sabi nga ni Myoy sa TFGG, "Hindi naman makukuha ang improvement sa isang iglap lang." (Or something like that! sweatdrop )
@Coycoy: Hello po! Musta po kay Ate Arli! whee
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Talumpati at Sinta Vice Captain
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 1:43 pm
Aray ko! Nakakasakit ng damdamin iyan.
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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 11:34 pm
Kind of funny how this thread was able to predict that the Anit-GMA side are going to lose.
Anyways, I suggest to those that are Anti-GMA that to take a differrent action to deal with GMA...so please stop protesting and try looking for another method.
Besides...GMA is winning fair and square right?
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Talumpati at Sinta Vice Captain
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 11:23 pm
`keNj I wonder.. Kasi pansin ko, bakit parang halos pare-pareho lang tayo ng mga point of views, bakit yung mga 'others' na iyan ay parang iba ata ang takbo ng utak. Ano ba ang meron sa kanila na wala satin? Ano ba ang meron satin na wala sa kanila? ano ang meron? pera. may pera ka, may edukasyon ka. may edukasyon ka, mas nakakaintindi ka. hindi natin mapipilit sa ating mga pananaw yung mga taong sawang sawa na sa nangyayari sa mga mumunting buhay nila. all of us here have the luxury to be open-minded dahil 'di tayo masyado naaapektuhan. which is not the case for them. sila ang pinakanakakaramdam ng mga kabalastugan na ginagawa ng mga nasa pusisyon. at sa katayuan nila sa buhay, ano ang ibang alternatibo sa pagra-rally para maiparating ang hinaing nila?
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 11:57 pm
Katsumoto_Ryusaki89 What good is a rally if it only brings MORE suffering. If they truly suffered enough, then shouldn't they just keep away from all things that cause suffering? EDSA I was a good rally because Marcos has stolen something very important to us, freedom. Now then, these rallies, are they fighting for something worthwhile? What are they fighting for? No they are not fighting for freedome because noone took it. Instead they are ABUSING the FREEDOM. They thought "Hey lets rally because EDSA I and II worked and nothing will happen to us anyway because nothing happened to the People of EDSA I and nothing will ever go wrong anyway it just stays the same.". Are they SURE of that? These people just closed their minds to the THEORY that ALL RALLIES WORK. now that is being close-minded. you honestly believe they do it for nothing? how can you look so low on your own countrymen? behind every rally is a principle and ideal the people are fighting for. most of the rallies today are because of high oil prices and the like, but nothing? sheesh... this is what i call the filipino divide. the rich hates but uses everyone, the middle class loves the rich and hates the poor and the poor become poorer and eventually die. that is the sad reality of our country and is very strong with our friend here. poor people rally because they cant do anything else, can they? they dont have the knowledge or money to start some intelligent campaign against something they dont like. they just feel tired and hungry and dirty and decide that enough is enough and gather to say it out loud. numbers is their only strength. they just cling to the thought that hopefully, maybe someone who can make a difference will hear their call. Katsumoto_Ryusaki89 They are fighting for something they "thought" happened. They "thought" GMA corrupted votes for other candidates. Maybe they misinterpreted the message of GMA. I saw someone on TV, holding a picket sign "GMA Aliss ka diyan. Kurap ka". Has she really corrupted ANYTHING? No. She just apologized for informally calling a Comelec official about her votes. However, this guy here thought that GMA said "Akin na mga boto ni FPJ! HAHAHAH!!" or something. man, they were not fighting for something that they thought happened. the gloriagate issue was just the last straw. people had been keeping an eye on the president they put in position, and she was not doing good. it was the people who gave her power, she knows that. but what did she do? man, if you only know the s**t about her son and husband, you'll be mad too. and that was just the tip of the iceberg. as a filipino living in the philippines and seeing everything that happens here, i can sincerely say that the last election was rigged. it was really FPJ who should have won, regardless of what he can or can't do for the country. and everybody knew that. that's why nobody trusts gma anymore, (at least in the philippines) it's because of that fact. Katsumoto_Ryusaki89 All these s**t happening to our country, is only because of the abuse of freedom and the closemindedness of the people. I only wish that these would lessen for the better. who doesnt want these rallies to stop? even rallyists grow tired. but as long as there is something wrong, they will never stop.
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 1:34 am
sad..... next year tayo na pinaka corrupt na bansa sa asia.... kasi takot mga pilipino sa pagbabago eh
hahahha, nakakasawa na rin maging pro-pinoy.... punta nalang ako italy
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:50 am
duh... gloria is no longer good... xp
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 4:36 am
Quote: What good is a rally if it only brings MORE suffering. If they truly suffered enough, then shouldn't they just keep away from all things that cause suffering? EDSA I was a good rally because Marcos has stolen something very important to us, freedom. Now then, these rallies, are they fighting for something worthwhile? What are they fighting for? No they are not fighting for freedome because noone took it. Instead they are ABUSING the FREEDOM. They thought "Hey lets rally because EDSA I and II worked and nothing will happen to us anyway because nothing happened to the People of EDSA I and nothing will ever go wrong anyway it just stays the same.". Are they SURE of that? These people just closed their minds to the THEORY that ALL RALLIES WORK. They are fighting for something they "thought" happened. They "thought" GMA corrupted votes for other candidates. Maybe they misinterpreted the message of GMA. I saw someone on TV, holding a picket sign "GMA Aliss ka diyan. Kurap ka". Has she really corrupted ANYTHING? No. She just apologized for informally calling a Comelec official about her votes. However, this guy here thought that GMA said "Akin na mga boto ni FPJ! HAHAHAH!!" or something. All these s**t happening to our country, is only because of the abuse of freedom and the closemindedness of the people. I only wish that these would lessen for the better. When did rallies suddenly kill a nation???? Even in america they hold rallies. They scared investors away, yeah right. The first thing investors look at is consistency of policies and trasparency of the procedures and implementation of said policies. And as you cann see Gloria exemplified this lack of transparency through her "phone calls". And didn't you know that Gloria borrowed excesively in the first quarter of this year (or was it last year)which eventually led to this fiscal deficit in the government which consequently led to the EVAT. And that coming from a "economist" is just so great. (read the research of the U.P professors if you wnat to learn more) And these people didn't just simply think ot these things out of the bat? Are you saying that these proffesors just heard this phone call and suddenly stipulated that Gloria is a bad, bad girl. I'd challenge you to say that to Mr. Chito Gascon and other members of the black and white movement. I suggest you go to forums more if you want to learn more about the wrong doings of our excellency. And boo to people who believe that supporting Gloria would make things better when in fact it doesn't. I believe if we could only have cenrtainty of punishment in our country then maybe rule of law could really work but right now it doesn't. And what if this whole issue of electoral fraud is not adressed? Then what of the next elections where we would face again the same thing. Another Garci, no reforms in the system of government would change if the people who man it are still the same crooks. The problem with our country is we never put officials accountable- We let them be. Even in the disaster ridden New Orleans and the Gulf Coast of America what I see is clear lines of accountability. People knew who to pressure, be it the federal government or FEMA and as for us we don't know who to hold accountable. We can't blame anyone and we even find it taboo to blame someone in power. It's like this opposition = destabilization. Yeah right, if you know how democracy really works then a healthy opposition is vital for any democracy. What a fake democracy we have. I can't stand this anymore. I can't stand people who evade issues. I can't stand people believing that evading issues leads to development. Right now we need to adress this issue of fraud to really know if Gloria stole our god given right of suffrage. Ah I am tired... I am loosing hope in this country but still hope lingers quietly. And this is the path I choose to follow it maybe wrong but I believe that inorder to bring order one needs chaos. I think the reason people view these rallies so negatively juat one, they are closely associated with the left and the administration has effectively marketed this perception to the general public that is why I think people view rallyist so negatively. @flashpoint I am an alumni of LSGH XD nice to see a GH boy here.
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 7:56 pm
Requiescat When did rallies suddenly kill a nation???? Even in america they hold rallies. They scared investors away, yeah right. The first thing investors look at is consistency of policies and trasparency of the procedures and implementation of said policies. And as you cann see Gloria exemplified this lack of transparency through her "phone calls". And didn't you know that Gloria borrowed excesively in the first quarter of this year (or was it last year)which eventually led to this fiscal deficit in the government which consequently led to the EVAT. And that coming from a "economist" is just so great. (read the research of the U.P professors if you wnat to learn more) And these people didn't just simply think ot these things out of the bat? Are you saying that these proffesors just heard this phone call and suddenly stipulated that Gloria is a bad, bad girl. I'd challenge you to say that to Mr. Chito Gascon and other members of the black and white movement. I suggest you go to forums more if you want to learn more about the wrong doings of our excellency. And boo to people who believe that supporting Gloria would make things better when in fact it doesn't. I believe if we could only have cenrtainty of punishment in our country then maybe rule of law could really work but right now it doesn't. And what if this whole issue of electoral fraud is not adressed? Then what of the next elections where we would face again the same thing. Another Garci, no reforms in the system of government would change if the people who man it are still the same crooks. The problem with our country is we never put officials accountable- We let them be. Even in the disaster ridden New Orleans and the Gulf Coast of America what I see is clear lines of accountability. People knew who to pressure, be it the federal government or FEMA and as for us we don't know who to hold accountable. We can't blame anyone and we even find it taboo to blame someone in power. It's like this opposition = destabilization. Yeah right, if you know how democracy really works then a healthy opposition is vital for any democracy. What a fake democracy we have. I can't stand this anymore. I can't stand people who evade issues. I can't stand people believing that evading issues leads to development. Right now we need to adress this issue of fraud to really know if Gloria stole our god given right of suffrage. Ah I am tired... I am loosing hope in this country but still hope lingers quietly. And this is the path I choose to follow it maybe wrong but I believe that inorder to bring order one needs chaos. I think the reason people view these rallies so negatively juat one, they are closely associated with the left and the administration has effectively marketed this perception to the general public that is why I think people view rallyist so negatively. @flashpoint I am an alumni of LSGH XD nice to see a GH boy here. bravo kapatid! mas magandang may "knowledgable" na nagsasabi ng katotohanan. 3nodding
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Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 7:21 am
uy fellow archer! Na-nspire rin po ba kayo ni Ms. Fay or ni Ms. Panganiban or ni Mr. Miguel domokun ?
Bwiset yang mga ignorant people na yan. Marami na akong nakaharap na ganyan eh. Siyempre, bilang isang aktibista marami ka ring makakaaway (isa na ate ko dun). Nakakaasar lang eh feeling nila may alam sila eh pero sa totoo nagmamarunong lang.
Kung may nalalaman sila bat sila walang ginagawa?! Ignorante talaga
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