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-part time ninja-
Crew

PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 9:43 am


I have recently starting cycling my 10 gallon tank... It was originally going to do swordtails.... but i went to the petstore and they have this female guppy that was so pretty.... I changed my mind.

So now my tank has 3 long-fin leopard danios... and after my tank is all cycled i will start to get my guppies ^_^

Will put pictures of my tank and new fish up soon ^_^
PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 4:11 pm


psh you let some idiot talk you out of fish that you knew would work in your tank lol

Kyosuke_Hayami


Sweetange

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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 9:08 am


Guppies will give birth alot! My female platy has given birth twice and is about to give birth again..
PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 4:25 pm


Sweetange
Guppies will give birth alot! My female platy has given birth twice and is about to give birth again..
I know ... my 2 females have had babies already....

Surprisingly my danios have had more 0.o but they all have gotten eaten >.<

-part time ninja-
Crew


fishcatch22

PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 5:05 pm


mmmmmmm......... IMO danios need tanks of at least 24" in length and schools of at least 6 in size. also, cycling with fish is not the easiest or most humane way to cycle a fishtank. those guppies will breed very fast and i'd add a predator like a betta, killifish or a dwarf gourami to eat the young.

there, i've said my peace. sorry to poop the party.
PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 7:42 pm


the tank has been up and running for almost a year... i think its doing okay

-part time ninja-
Crew


Fable Fae
Crew

PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 10:55 pm


fishcatch22
mmmmmmm......... IMO danios need tanks of at least 24" in length and schools of at least 6 in size. also, cycling with fish is not the easiest or most humane way to cycle a fishtank. those guppies will breed very fast and i'd add a predator like a betta, killifish or a dwarf gourami to eat the young.

there, i've said my peace. sorry to poop the party.


I agree with you about how to cycle a tank. For me, fishless cycling just seems easier.

However, a betta in a tank full of guppies doesn't sound that appealing. Especially for Mr. Betta. Guppies are very curious kiddos, and I've noticed a lot of the time they use nipping as a way to check something out. They also seem to n**, well, just because they can I suppose. They're like that you know lol.

I wouldn't suggest keeping any fish with delicate finnage in a tank with guppies. Believe me, as innocent as their nipping can be at times, it will end up tearing fragile fins something terrible.

Betta are pretty fast and can flit away when being bothered, but if you know guppies, you know they are like tiny persistant torpedos. They don't give up when they get interested in an activity. At least not any guppies that I've kept. xd

What I do when I am faced with too many guppy fry is just cull them. It's not a fun task for anyone and is a little sad, but it seems to be a better way to go than having your face snatched off by a hungry gourami, lol.

Sure, some people would rather have a ninja-fish in their tank to do their dirty work for them, but sometimes adding yet another fish to the mix and in an already established tank just isn't the route that some people are willing to take.
PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 11:17 pm


Sobbing Starlight
fishcatch22
mmmmmmm......... IMO danios need tanks of at least 24" in length and schools of at least 6 in size. also, cycling with fish is not the easiest or most humane way to cycle a fishtank. those guppies will breed very fast and i'd add a predator like a betta, killifish or a dwarf gourami to eat the young.

there, i've said my peace. sorry to poop the party.


I agree with you about how to cycle a tank. For me, fishless cycling just seems easier.

However, a betta in a tank full of guppies doesn't sound that appealing. Especially for Mr. Betta. Guppies are very curious kiddos, and I've noticed a lot of the time they use nipping as a way to check something out. They also seem to n**, well, just because they can I suppose. They're like that you know lol.

I wouldn't suggest keeping any fish with delicate finnage in a tank with guppies. Believe me, as innocent as their nipping can be at times, it will end up tearing fragile fins something terrible.

Betta are pretty fast and can flit away when being bothered, but if you know guppies, you know they are like tiny persistant torpedos. They don't give up when they get interested in an activity. At least not any guppies that I've kept. xd

What I do when I am faced with too many guppy fry is just cull them. It's not a fun task for anyone and is a little sad, but it seems to be a better way to go than having your face snatched off by a hungry gourami, lol.

Sure, some people would rather have a ninja-fish in their tank to do their dirty work for them, but sometimes adding yet another fish to the mix and in an already established tank just isn't the route that some people are willing to take.
i've never had these issues with guppies, but I have experienced them with platies. as we all know, experience may vary, and I actually meant to say female betta as the males sometimes perceive male guppies as rivals.

I find ninja-fish the most effective way of guppy population control, after all, most baby guppies can really hide IME and I can never find all of them. though now that I re-visit the stocking, she may not have to room for a ninja-fish biologically (unless the tank is planted of course).

fishcatch22


Fable Fae
Crew

PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 12:06 am


fishcatch22
Sobbing Starlight
fishcatch22
mmmmmmm......... IMO danios need tanks of at least 24" in length and schools of at least 6 in size. also, cycling with fish is not the easiest or most humane way to cycle a fishtank. those guppies will breed very fast and i'd add a predator like a betta, killifish or a dwarf gourami to eat the young.

there, i've said my peace. sorry to poop the party.


I agree with you about how to cycle a tank. For me, fishless cycling just seems easier.

However, a betta in a tank full of guppies doesn't sound that appealing. Especially for Mr. Betta. Guppies are very curious kiddos, and I've noticed a lot of the time they use nipping as a way to check something out. They also seem to n**, well, just because they can I suppose. They're like that you know lol.

I wouldn't suggest keeping any fish with delicate finnage in a tank with guppies. Believe me, as innocent as their nipping can be at times, it will end up tearing fragile fins something terrible.

Betta are pretty fast and can flit away when being bothered, but if you know guppies, you know they are like tiny persistant torpedos. They don't give up when they get interested in an activity. At least not any guppies that I've kept. xd

What I do when I am faced with too many guppy fry is just cull them. It's not a fun task for anyone and is a little sad, but it seems to be a better way to go than having your face snatched off by a hungry gourami, lol.

Sure, some people would rather have a ninja-fish in their tank to do their dirty work for them, but sometimes adding yet another fish to the mix and in an already established tank just isn't the route that some people are willing to take.
i've never had these issues with guppies, but I have experienced them with platies. as we all know, experience may vary, and I actually meant to say female betta as the males sometimes perceive male guppies as rivals.

I find ninja-fish the most effective way of guppy population control, after all, most baby guppies can really hide IME and I can never find all of them. though now that I re-visit the stocking, she may not have to room for a ninja-fish biologically (unless the tank is planted of course).


Oh, right right. A female betta could be okay, what with shorter fins and all. Isn't that awefully sexist of me, I always instantly assume male when someone says "betta". xd

Yes, you're right about male betta considering some male guppies as rivals. In one instance I found myself with a male betta in a community tank (it wasn't very well mixed, I wasn't that educated on fish at the time) and it always flared at anything with colour that would happen by. Especially one male guppy I had. Betta have a thing against other froofy fish like them, don't they. rofl

Ok, back to the nipping guppies. I've read up in other places on the net where guppies have acted like this toward other fish with long fins or protruding eyes (goldfish for example). I don't have any links that I could reffer, so I probably shouldn't mention it. Though in that same community tank I mentioned before (and after the guppy population skyrocketed), I noticed that behaviour in my guppies with the two goldfish I had been keeping in there. It actually got so bad that my goldfish would constantly hide in a large ornament I had in there, and I didn't really notice this all was happening until they started hiding like that. (Something that really puts a pang of guilt through me every time I remember it--even though I was a novice at fishkeeping, it was something I really should have noticed and I can't manage to give excuses to make myself feel better over it >_<) I ended up getting a 25 gallon tub to keep the goldfish in until I could get another tank for them. Thankfully those same goldfish are still alive, even after that period of neglect. Their living arrangements are all sorted out now too. (I've got them in a 55 gallon tank all to themselves with a new Ranchu friend to try and make up for my crimes :S )

Anyway.. let's move away from my indulgent little paragraph above.

You are right in saying that people's fishkeeping experiences vary. Some might find themselves with a reasonably docile fish, while others, keeping the exact same type of fish, could experience completely different behaviour from them. (And visa versa)

And again, you bring a valid point to the topic of the very deadly and very hungry ninja-fish. ninja Catching fry can be extremely tedious, but thankfully I've perfected the art of luring. (I catch them in a spoon during feeding time. xd ) I guess a little patience is required though. Err.. and a steady hand, if you're catching them in a spoon. o_O;
PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:28 am


I have a question though about the heater and how it would affect the female betta. Our bettas (Tohma's and Nori's) are in bowls of their own and have no heaters. There are heaters in the guppy/platy aquarium. I thought that Bettas were cooler water fish. Wouldn't that cause a little shock to the Betta's system to put her in the aquarium ? Just a thought.

mamarita

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Fable Fae
Crew

PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:00 pm


mamarita
I have a question though about the heater and how it would affect the female betta. Our bettas (Tohma's and Nori's) are in bowls of their own and have no heaters. There are heaters in the guppy/platy aquarium. I thought that Bettas were cooler water fish. Wouldn't that cause a little shock to the Betta's system to put her in the aquarium ? Just a thought.


Betta originated from a very warm climate, so they preffer warmer water. They can do okay at room temperature (65F), but they are happiest at 75 to 80F.

Betta Talk is a site that I have visited many times, and has a lot of good information on Betta. So when you have the time, have a good read through there. (:

If your betta are in small bowls, I would suggest getting new tanks or impeccably clean containers that hold at least 1 gallon of water. Out of curiosity, what are the sizes of their current bowls?

Also, check out this page on heating options for small tanks. I posted this in another thread, but for convenience I will go ahead and post it here as well. smile

As for any fish being transfered from one tank to another, if the water temperatures are drastically different (or even more than 2 degrees in difference) you must never just place them into the tank straight away.

When transferring a fish from one tank to another, first bring the fish's tank water to the same temperature of the water that it will be going into. To reduce chances of the fish becomming stressed or possibly dying, you should allow the water temperature to raise by only 1 or 2 degrees per hour. If a fish is placed into water that is a drastically different temperature than what it has been used to, it could die from heart failure, or other possible causes.

After the water temperatures are the same, then it is safe to transport your fish! (:

If you do decide to put a female betta into your guppy/platy tank, be very sure to watch their behaviour closely for a couple of days. It's possible that the guppies might chase and peck the female betta for a few days, but if it continues for too long I would consider either removing the betta from the tank or planting it more heavily (if you have the room) so your betta can take refuge.

Any fish, especially Betta, can become ill from stress, so keep a look out for that kind of behaviour if you end up placing the betta with the guppies. 3nodding
PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 3:29 pm


Most good aquarium shops seperate male and female guppies don't they? At least the ones I've worked and shopped at did.

Siphilis


Fable Fae
Crew

PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 10:47 pm


Siphilis
Most good aquarium shops seperate male and female guppies don't they? At least the ones I've worked and shopped at did.


They do. Some don't even sell females, depending on what strain of guppy they are.

However, not everyone will buy from a shop that seperates males from females. Where I buy fish (Walmart!), they don't take very good care of them and often mix fish that can't even tolerate each other, so it's no surprise that they would couple both male and female guppies in one tank.
PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:55 am


The stores I've shopped at Jack's aquarium and pets dont but they type sort

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