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 Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 7:22 pm
I'm going to keep this short and sweet.
An old saying says that money is the root of evil...
By my opinion, that's wrong. I think power and the desire for dominance is the root of all evil. Like in many films and games, the bad guy wants world dominance. It's blindingly obvious that power causes evil and disruption. Like the Buddhists.. or Hindu ... or something... people said, you must abandon desire. Desire for anything is a desire for power, which leads to chaos, destruction, etc.
Money is a manifestation of the desire for power. If you have more money, you have more power.
Mating shows how much animals (humans too) lust for power. Was that a pun? I don't know. But mating is primarily for reproduction, and secondarily for dominance. Or the other way around. And then there's infinite reasons spiraling after that...
So is power evil? Is money evil? IS EVIL EVIL?
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:16 pm
Well, having DESIRE to do GOOD thing isn't necessarily evil 3nodding
Anyway to the point, power can be a good thing until someone come screw it up or power ended up screwing the person possesing the power. Desire is really depend on your intention and plan, and the intention of keeping the plan. I love Buddhism and all (yes, it was them that said it), but they didn't really branch out well enough on desires, but they did make good point overall though. Dominance is also varies amongst those who possesses it, like FDR's dominance over Nazi evil scheme of taking over the world. It is just how you use those term that define either good or evil, nothing else.
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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 12:20 pm
Actually, the saying goes "the love of money is the root of all evil". I personally don't agree with it either, but I don't really think it is necessarily power that is equal to evil. Allow me to elaborate.
Remember learning about the muckrakers from the Reform Era (such as the authors of the Jungle and How the Other Half Lives)? They affected the way people thought, could bring issues to everyone's attention, and ended up influencing greatly the people of the government. One might say that they had a lot of power. Does that make them evil? Of course not! They were exposing the flaws of society. In this case, the power they weilded changed the United States for the better.
The problem with power is not power itself, nor even the love of it. The problem with power is that the people who hold a lot of it are flawed, as all humans are. Somewhere they are going to end up making mistakes. And the more power you have, the more people your mistakes will affect.
But you have to realize that without some power concentration somewhere, humanity can not govern itself. Power is necessary, but dangerous.
As for money... it is indeed a very flawed system, but also the best we have come up with so far. No matter how much cheating is done within this system, realize that there would probably be a lot more cheating if the values of items could not be measured. In itself, it is not evil either. What people can use it for, and the lifestyles that it can create, are where it starts to turn sour.
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 5:36 am
Well the root of evil isn't money becuase there was evil long before currency, also many people are considered evil for traitorous acts, such as Satin in the bible. Basically non-loyalty is evil, and the reaso for that is desire
You truly don't see many people having desire to walk around helping people stare I'm not sure what the word is, but desire doesn't belong in the last sentence
Desire~evil
ummmm
Passion?~good
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 3:12 pm
Septomor Well the root of evil isn't money becuase there was evil long before currency, also many people are considered evil for traitorous acts, such as Satin in the bible. Basically non-loyalty is evil, and the reaso for that is desire You truly don't see many people having desire to walk around helping people stare I'm not sure what the word is, but desire doesn't belong in the last sentence Desire~evil ummmm Passion?~good ok, I looked up specific definition of desire, and it is just basically 'want'. English today tend to be a little loose, so "Having desire to help others" is like "--->Want<----- to help someone". I may be wrong, I might be right. Beside, someone can have passion in their work wether it is good or evil. If english specifically state that desire is evil and passion is good, then I would 100% agree with you, otherwise it just how you use those two words (for now).
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 9:10 pm
swatdude911 Septomor Well the root of evil isn't money becuase there was evil long before currency, also many people are considered evil for traitorous acts, such as Satin in the bible. Basically non-loyalty is evil, and the reaso for that is desire You truly don't see many people having desire to walk around helping people stare I'm not sure what the word is, but desire doesn't belong in the last sentence Desire~evil ummmm Passion?~good ok, I looked up specific definition of desire, and it is just basically 'want'. English today tend to be a little loose, so "Having desire to help others" is like "--->Want<----- to help someone". I may be wrong, I might be right. Beside, someone can have passion in their work wether it is good or evil. If english specifically state that desire is evil and passion is good, then I would 100% agree with you, otherwise it just how you use those two words (for now). I'm sadly refering to a christianity movie right now, Passion Of The Christ Now, tell me if this sounds like a good person Desire Of The Christ xp
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 5:15 am
Septomor swatdude911 Septomor Well the root of evil isn't money becuase there was evil long before currency, also many people are considered evil for traitorous acts, such as Satin in the bible. Basically non-loyalty is evil, and the reaso for that is desire You truly don't see many people having desire to walk around helping people stare I'm not sure what the word is, but desire doesn't belong in the last sentence Desire~evil ummmm Passion?~good ok, I looked up specific definition of desire, and it is just basically 'want'. English today tend to be a little loose, so "Having desire to help others" is like "--->Want<----- to help someone". I may be wrong, I might be right. Beside, someone can have passion in their work wether it is good or evil. If english specifically state that desire is evil and passion is good, then I would 100% agree with you, otherwise it just how you use those two words (for now). I'm sadly refering to a christianity movie right now, Passion Of The Christ Now, tell me if this sounds like a good person Desire Of The Christ xp Well.... I looked up exact definition of passion and the definition is strong feeling, the suffering of Jesus at cruxifixion, and something desired intensely (why didn't I look up word passion before)
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:29 pm
the way i see it, money or even going as far as loving money isn't evil at all because there are plenty of people who have alot of money and they arn't evil. Ex: Bill gate has alot of money, but he isn't evil. (well i dont think so) In fact, he give alot of his money away to charities every year. Also, what if you love money and having money because it allows you to care for and support your family? That certainly is not evil.
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 7:41 pm
I said the desire for power is evil...
Do you know what people DO for power?
It's really quite scary.
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Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 1:35 pm
swatdude911 Septomor swatdude911 Septomor Well the root of evil isn't money becuase there was evil long before currency, also many people are considered evil for traitorous acts, such as Satin in the bible. Basically non-loyalty is evil, and the reaso for that is desire You truly don't see many people having desire to walk around helping people stare I'm not sure what the word is, but desire doesn't belong in the last sentence Desire~evil ummmm Passion?~good ok, I looked up specific definition of desire, and it is just basically 'want'. English today tend to be a little loose, so "Having desire to help others" is like "--->Want<----- to help someone". I may be wrong, I might be right. Beside, someone can have passion in their work wether it is good or evil. If english specifically state that desire is evil and passion is good, then I would 100% agree with you, otherwise it just how you use those two words (for now). I'm sadly refering to a christianity movie right now, Passion Of The Christ Now, tell me if this sounds like a good person Desire Of The Christ xp Well.... I looked up exact definition of passion and the definition is strong feeling, the suffering of Jesus at cruxifixion, and something desired intensely (why didn't I look up word passion before) that might be definition, but the way we use words today, can have a twisted meaning
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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 5:31 pm
Some Philosopher Power is everything, something everybody has. And they're always afraid to lose it. That basically sums it up for me.
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