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 Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 5:33 am
*looks at past few posts and topic title searching for relavence* ******** it if you can beat em join em. Lubu is the greatest warrior who ever lived, he pwns all even if he is a fictional computer game character. His only drawback is as he's a little slow it takes slightly longer to get to the next group of victims. In defence he could take on an army consisting of every other character in the games (in the dynasty warrior series at least)...
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 2:52 pm
Mirko, I *obviously* know that there is more than one game. I only played number 6 though. Rented it from blockbuster for a week...tried renting it again but couldn't find it. I was disappointed.
And damn I reallywant to play some of the dynasty warriors games. But I don't own a ps2. For shame.
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 7:47 pm
DarklingGlory *looks at past few posts and topic title searching for relavence* ******** it if you can beat em join em. Lubu is the greatest warrior who ever lived, he pwns all even if he is a fictional computer game character. His only drawback is as he's a little slow it takes slightly longer to get to the next group of victims. In defence he could take on an army consisting of every other character in the games (in the dynasty warrior series at least)... actually, Zhang Fei was supposedly dead even with him for a good 50 rounds. Then Guan Yu got worried and jumped in, Lu bu did pretty well with them too. Liu Bei then goes into a s**t fit and jumps in. They circle him, after about 5 minutes he gets tired and knows he'll lose, he feints at liu bei, liu bei goes "ahhh i'm a littler p***y a** girl" and dodges, Lu Bu escapes. Hence, no, Lu Bu couldn't take an army of them. That is, if you're going by the actual SGZ story. Zhang Liao is probably the greatest general of all. He held off 100000 with his 800 troops. These were trained troops. Wu troops no less. Hell what did Lu Bu ever do? Scare off a bunch of confused and distrusting troops from a coalition? Pff! Hell even Guan Yu gave Zhang Liao his respect, telling Zhang Fei to beware of Zhang Liao. The Quote went something along the lines of "Beware brother, for zhang liao is equal to one Zhang or Guan." Zhang Fei held off Lu Bu for 50 turns mind you, and wasn't necessarily losing. Zhang Liao was much smarter and was the MUCH better general than Lu Bu. Also, who's kingdom ended up winning? Zhang Liao's. ... well actually it was Jin, but the first dynasty to take place after the han was Cao Cao's.... And I'm not sure, but i think Zhang Liao served Jin. All in all, Zhang Liao, True god of War!!!! He still has a statue at He Fei for ******** sake! Dynasty Warriors, i've beaten Lu Bu with a FRESH character, on hardest dificulties in all the games at Hu Lao. ******** takes forever, but it's doable... got killed by normal soldiers a couple times while trying, in ... 3 i think.
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 1:36 am
One could however argue that chinese opera is in fact a martial art, it did indeed come from shaolin.
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 2:44 am
TsumeMishima One could however argue that chinese opera is in fact a martial art, it did indeed come from shaolin. Um, references? I highly doubt that Chinese opera came from Shao Lin.
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 6:30 pm
Bruce-Ganked-Lee TsumeMishima One could however argue that chinese opera is in fact a martial art, it did indeed come from shaolin. Um, references? I highly doubt that Chinese opera came from Shao Lin. *twitch* where did that come from...?
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 8:11 pm
Bruce-Ganked-Lee TsumeMishima One could however argue that chinese opera is in fact a martial art, it did indeed come from shaolin. Um, references? I highly doubt that Chinese opera came from Shao Lin. The opera itself didnt come from ShaoLin, but the some of the movements did, Reference; its was in a low buget documentary I forgot what it was called it was on the Sundance channel a few months ago...
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 3:04 pm
jackie chan was traind in hapkido I looked once.
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 3:42 pm
Cat Boy Zeke Bruce-Ganked-Lee TsumeMishima One could however argue that chinese opera is in fact a martial art, it did indeed come from shaolin. Um, references? I highly doubt that Chinese opera came from Shao Lin. The opera itself didnt come from ShaoLin, but the some of the movements did, Reference; its was in a low buget documentary I forgot what it was called it was on the Sundance channel a few months ago... Wing chun can be traced back to members of the chinese opera and back to storys from shaolin.
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Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 4:35 pm
Quote: .. Don't make me choke you out. Then play hide the hot sauce with you...
As far as the fighters/martial artists thing, I can see where you're coming from with that, but I'd have to say that it kind of annoys me that they've become so distinct. One could easily say that things like Capoeira fall under the exact same category as things like Le Parkour; it's almost all acrobatic or threatrical.
In my opinion, the martial artist should not be distinquishable from the fighter. The martial arts, no matter how you want to turn it, is for fighting. It's learning, essentially, how to be a fighter who is combat ready. Hence, the "martial" part; war. I think too many styles are watered down with the theatrics and this is why their technique suffers. It's fine to learn a form that looks pretty every once in a while, but at the same time, that has nothing to do with learning how to really react when someone takes a swing at you on the street. The seemingly only martial arts now adays that still hold the love for finding proper and effective technique are ones that are used in sport. Muy thai, western boxing, MMA, sambo, etc. And to quote a well known member's signature, those "do not translate into the street in their unmodified state", which I cannot agree with more.
I think the martial arts community, for its members to be considered fighters, needs to make a push away from the theatrics into training fighters. Enough with the self-defense bullshit. It's nice to say, but, you learn to throw a punch to do damage, regardless of your intentions. But that's just my opinion.
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 1:59 pm
The Bull Of The North Quote: .. Don't make me choke you out. Then play hide the hot sauce with you...
As far as the fighters/martial artists thing, I can see where you're coming from with that, but I'd have to say that it kind of annoys me that they've become so distinct. One could easily say that things like Capoeira fall under the exact same category as things like Le Parkour; it's almost all acrobatic or threatrical.
In my opinion, the martial artist should not be distinquishable from the fighter. The martial arts, no matter how you want to turn it, is for fighting. It's learning, essentially, how to be a fighter who is combat ready. Hence, the "martial" part; war. I think too many styles are watered down with the theatrics and this is why their technique suffers. It's fine to learn a form that looks pretty every once in a while, but at the same time, that has nothing to do with learning how to really react when someone takes a swing at you on the street. The seemingly only martial arts now adays that still hold the love for finding proper and effective technique are ones that are used in sport. Muy thai, western boxing, MMA, sambo, etc. And to quote a well known member's signature, those "do not translate into the street in their unmodified state", which I cannot agree with more.
I think the martial arts community, for its members to be considered fighters, needs to make a push away from the theatrics into training fighters. Enough with the self-defense bullshit. It's nice to say, but, you learn to throw a punch to do damage, regardless of your intentions. But that's just my opinion.For the martial arts community to do that, it would first need to create more acceptance for fights (which is unfortunately rather unethical in our Western culture). One way would be to propagate and popularise the Budo philosophy and state of mind, since these are seen as beneficial to society. Of course, in this case the Budo state of mind and philosophy would have to be lived up to. It would take an effort from every single teacher in every single dojo. And even more from the students. And over a rather long period of time, too. Possible, yes. Likely? Ehhhh.... It would also be beneficial for martial arts if they made clearer definitions of their aim. That is why I praise tricking, because it doesn't lie about what it's really trying to do. Use martial arts moves to do pretty tricks. If we had more of that, we'd have less pussies giving taekwondo and instructing that basically... pretty=power. Same goes for those Wushu guys who believe they will learn how to fight by doing forms... @@ We'd be having people going tricking if what they want is fancy moves, doing something serious if they want something serious, and all the arts in the middle who can't offer an extra aspect like aikido with it's mental aspect or capoeira with it's dance aspect would be pretty much caught unemployed... God that's sadistic justice for you there... *sighs and dreams on* And some aikidoka's can seriously kick some a**, by the way. ...but admittedly, they're the rare breed. Back on topic. In the case Jackie Chan had indeed trained in Chinese Opera (meant more for learning long choreographies that look like spontaneous and impressive fights) instead of a real martial arts intended to resolve conflict, I think it is safe to say he is more a Chinese opera performer than a martial artist. Or at least, that is likely more the side of him he displays in his movies. If next to that he trained in martial arts, he is a martial artist, too. Wether he's as good a martial artist, let alone fighter, as he is a Chinese opera performer, is a matter on it's own.
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