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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 12:54 am


Dreaming_Seraphim
Vajrabhairav! Thank you for being smart enough to see the truth.

The rest of you are most likely American Idiots. UFC of K-1 don't count as "REAL FIGHTS" . So stop comparing different styles/methods in egotism, it shows how stupid you are and annoys those of us that are open minded.



YEAAAAHHHHH ******** AMERIKKKA!!!
PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 7:11 am


Seraph, if you're such a tough guy

Why don't you fight a pro fighter in a "real" fight?

You'd get ******** killed

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Thunder Foot

PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 7:21 am


Martial J
Dreaming_Seraphim
Vajrabhairav! Thank you for being smart enough to see the truth.

The rest of you are most likely American Idiots. UFC of K-1 don't count as "REAL FIGHTS" . So stop comparing different styles/methods in egotism, it shows how stupid you are and annoys those of us that are open minded.

Thank God there are still some people with respect of styles up in this guild. I had really given up for a moment there. It's not combat effective if you've got a ref telling you to break every ten seconds. Period. The Gong fu styles you guys bash all the time are still here for a reason, and it's not the same one as all that Pride fighting stuff. Show some respect for stuff. Anyways is Muay Boran taught at all still? If so, where do you learn it?


Well, as of right now.... the only legitimate form of Boran that i know of today, hails from a specific region of Thailand that use to go by the name"Chaiya". The style took on the name and is referred to as "Muay Chaiya". Alot of people hear the term "Muay Boran", and automatically think Tony Jaa, but the truth of the matter is, there are many different forms of Muay Boran in Thailand. Chaiya has gained the most recognition. And there is also an Italian person (by the name Marco DeCesaris) who is trying to resurrect Muay Boran, but unfortunately the dude is a fraud XD. It happens from time to time, it was only a matter of time until someone looked at Ong Bak and said "hey, I can make money off this!" Anyway, there is also another form of Boran thats gaining popularity called "Muay Korat". Some forms of the Thai Army also practice this style, and this is also the style that Tony Jaa uses. As far as where you learn it, the are only few places that you can learn at this time.... because its just now gaining popularity. It really depends on where you're at.
PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 7:17 am


What's with all these bitches whining about "respect" for the arts? Apart from Tat givin his usual "MMMaaa>>MT" I haven't seen a single post knocking another style...
We have other threads for that xd



Thunder: Have you heard of the concept of "Thai Boxing"? Seems to be watered down Muay Thai taught by white people that have never competed...

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Thunder Foot

PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 3:52 am


DarklingGlory
Thunder: Have you heard of the concept of "Thai Boxing"? Seems to be watered down Muay Thai taught by white people that have never competed...

yea, Thaiboxing and Muay Thai are the same thing. Its kinda a loose translation/english equivilent of "Muay Thai". They're the same. Some MMA gyms use it to try and make some sort of differentiation, but nah.
PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 4:39 am


Here is some training in Thailand at Nakarntorn gym Bangkok. You can see alot of the Thai methods and strategies in it. Students usually live at the gym and sleep in dormitories there if they have the luxury, or on the gym floor. Just thought I'd post it up for those who haven't seen it.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:57 am


i don't know really anything about MT, so what's the difference between it and Burmese Boxing, or is Burmese Boxing even a style?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 5:33 am


Martial J
i don't know really anything about MT, so what's the difference between it and Burmese Boxing, or is Burmese Boxing even a style?

Burmese Boxing is definitely a style, and in Burma it goes by the name "Lethwei". They are very similar, just like a majority of the SE Asian boxing styles. The difference in Lethwei is, they fight with hemp or cloth wrapped hands, dipped in water, and commonly in sand pits. They pretty much allow all strikes, except for ones directly to the eyes and groin. They are also advocates of takedowns as well. Lethwei is essentially the same as Muay Thai, just like the Cambodian equivilent of Muay Thai called "Pradal Serey", and the Loatian equivilent called "Muay Lao" aaaannnd the Malay equivilent called "Tomoi". I got to train Tomoi when I was in Malaysia late last year, and honestly the Muay Thai from Thailand is alot better. I'm actually going back to Thailand in March, at which point I'll hopefully get to check out Burma and Cambodia for their kickboxing, but I'm not sure with all the politics going on over there. But yea, back to my point... Lethwei is basically Muay Thai with bad tactics. Its a real sloppy form of Muay. The Burmese and Thai have been at war for hundreds of years. So now instead of killing each other, they compete in boxing matches, where the Burmese get beat up.

Thunder Foot


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:10 am


Muay Thai Legend: Apidej Sit Hirun

At 62 years old, the legendary Muay Thai kicker Apidej Sit Hirun still loves Muay Thai - although now he is known more for his students skills than his own. "Suay Maak" - very beautiful—he says, as a student kicks the Thai pads with full force. The same student musters up all his energy and power to kick the pads again "Dee Maak" very good Apidej says with a wide grin.

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Apidej demonstrates some fancy footwork, "same as Cassius Clay" he says. Here is a man who was a legend in Thailand at the same time as Ali was a legend in America and the world. Today, when Apidej goes to the big Muay Thai stadiums many people still recognise him and pay their respects.
In his early 20's Apidej fought one of his former trainers Kru 'Srisavet' five times. Apidej won every encounter using many of the same tricks and skills that Srisavet had taught him. One of Apidej's many tricks was to put a finger on the eye or the throat of an opponent to make them loose control of their vision and body. Actually this trick can even harm the opponent but you should know how to use it. It was done to me once and then my opponent knocked me out," he says with a laugh.

Unlike many of his peers, Apidej had more than one great weapon - in addition to kicking with unparalleled power he was feared for his elbows and strong punching ability, and could end a fight with all of these weapons. "My elbows and punches were the same as everyone else's but I used them at the right time. Apply everything smartly when you fight".

Still heavily involved in Muay Thai, Apidej rises each day before 6am to teach at the Fairtex Gym (more info see links) on the outskirts of Bangkok. Greeting everyone with the same warm inviting smile, it is hard to imagine that this friendly man was renowned and feared for his powerful kicks; in one fight he broke both of his opponent's arms.

However it was not always this way. At the age of 12 Apidej had his first fight, a win by KO - and this without any training!

After this win Apidej was taught by his Uncle and then his schoolteacher. He also played soccer, attributing a lot of his kicking finesse to his football skills and hard practice. "The most important thing is to kick at the right time, when the opponent is most vulnerable. Don't kick at the same target all the time, try to confuse and deceive your opponent with your kicks".

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By the late 1960's Apidej simultaneously held 7 titles in Muay Thai and international boxing, a record that remains unmatched to this day. In recognition of this achievement the King of Thailand awarded him Best Muay Thai Kicker and Fighter of the Century. He is also the only Thai boxer to have a display in the national Museum of Thailand. At the age of 39, after around 300 fights, he retired to spend more time with his wife and family and felt it was time for a change.

What are the ingredients of a top fighter? "Great fighters have honesty in themselves and others. They have discipline and always respect their trainer. They work hard and never cheat themselves and work hard towards fighting smart, improving skill, technique and tricks. Every technique is harmful when used the right way".

Many westerners think that Muay Thai's boxing is weak - despite the fact that many former Thai boxers have gone on to win World Boxing titles. What do you think? "In International Boxing they punch fast but in Muay Thai we do not. We punch when it's a suitable time to punch because Muay Thai has many weapons to choose from. We only focus on the hardest punch, the explosive punch, the one punch that can produce the best result. Every punch is intended to knock out the opponent".

When asked about the modern state of Muay Thai Apidej ponders before replying: "Today fighters rarely respect their trainers. In the past Muay Thai fighters worshipped the people who trained them. This gratitude is important in Thai culture and especially in Muay Thai. What I want is someone to conserve the disappearing old Muay Thai techniques for the next generation of Thai people. How many modern fighters use the old Muay Thai techniques in the ring?"

Currently who is your favourite fighter? "I Still heavily involved in Muay Thai, Apidej rises each day before 6am to teach at the Fairtex Gym (more info see links) on the outskirts of Bangkok. Greeting everyone with the same warm inviting smile, it is hard to imagine that this friendly man was renowned and feared for his powerful kicks; in one fight he broke both of his opponent's arms.

However it was not always this way. At the age of 12 Apidej had his first fight, a win by KO - and this without any training!

After this win Apidej was taught by his Uncle and then his schoolteacher. He also played soccer, attributing a lot of his kicking finesse to his football skills and hard practice. "The most important thing is to kick at the right time, when the opponent is most vulnerable. Don't kick at the same target all the time, try to confuse and deceive your opponent with your kicks".

By the late 1960's Apidej simultaneously held 7 titles in Muay Thai and international boxing, a record that remains unmatched to this day. In recognition of this achievement the King of Thailand awarded him Best Muay Thai Kicker and Fighter of the Century. He is also the only Thai boxer to have a display in the national Museum of Thailand. At the age of 39, after around 300 fights, he retired to spend more time with his wife and family and felt it was time for a change.

What are the ingredients of a top fighter? "Great fighters have honesty in themselves and others. They have discipline and always respect their trainer. They work hard and never cheat themselves and work hard towards fighting smart, improving skill, technique and tricks. Every technique is harmful when used the right way".

Many westerners think that Muay Thai's boxing is weak - despite the fact that many former Thai boxers have gone on to win World Boxing titles. What do you think? "In International Boxing they punch fast but in Muay Thai we do not. We punch when it's a suitable time to punch because Muay Thai has many weapons to choose from. We only focus on the hardest punch, the explosive punch, the one punch that can produce the best result. Every punch is intended to knock out the opponent".

When asked about the modern state of Muay Thai Apidej ponders before replying: "Today fighters rarely respect their trainers. In the past Muay Thai fighters worshipped the people who trained them. This gratitude is important in Thai culture and especially in Muay Thai. What I want is someone to conserve the disappearing old Muay Thai techniques for the next generation of Thai people. How many modern fighters use the old Muay Thai techniques in the ring?"

Currently who is your favourite fighter? "I don't have any favourite modern fighters. I like smart fighters who have good tricks and use the right technique at the right time - focussing on the next moves against their opponent. At the moment there are no such fighters. Hippie Singmanee was such a fighter and I liked the way he fought".

Tomorrow the sun will rise over Bangkok and once more Apidej will be there to greet it, with a smile and words of encouragement for all the students of the camp.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 12:56 am


Come on... show some love for Apidej!! He's like the Mohammed Ali of Thailand for Muay Thai.

Dang... I guess Muay Thai aint interesting to yall folk.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 1:38 am


Thunder Foot
Come on... show some love for Apidej!! He's like the Mohammed Ali of Thailand for Muay Thai.

Dang... I guess Muay Thai aint interesting to yall folk.

That's actually pretty cool. I don't visit this guild too often. Do you have any highlight reels for this guy?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:16 pm


Martial J
Thunder Foot
Come on... show some love for Apidej!! He's like the Mohammed Ali of Thailand for Muay Thai.

Dang... I guess Muay Thai aint interesting to yall folk.

That's actually pretty cool. I don't visit this guild too often. Do you have any highlight reels for this guy?

Yea, look at the very bottom of the post. Its there plain as day.

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