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Socrates in Disguise Captain
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 Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 3:11 pm
Edgar Allen Poe The faculty of re-solution is possibly much invigorated by mathematical study and especially by the highest branch of which, unjustly, and merely on account of its retrograde operations, has been called, as if par excellence, analysis. Yet to calculate is not in itself to analyze. A chess-player, for example, does one, without effort at the other. It follows the game of chess, in its effects upon mental character, is greatly misunderstood. I am not now writing a treatise, but simply prefacing a somewhat peculiar narrative by observations very much at random... Taken from The Murders of the Rue Morguehe's talking about analysis...just as a chees player can make moves without much thought but great skill...I do not write with thought but just write whatever pops into my head. Come to think of it who doesn't just Narrarate observations with random interfaces? Comments?
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Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 5:50 pm
Socrates in Disguise Edgar Allen Poe The faculty of re-solution is possibly much invigorated by mathematical study and especially by the highest branch of which, unjustly, and merely on account of its retrograde operations, has been called, as if par excellence, analysis. Yet to calculate is not in itself to analyze. A chess-player, for example, does one, without effort at the other. It follows the game of chess, in its effects upon mental character, is greatly misunderstood. I am not now writing a treatise, but simply prefacing a somewhat peculiar narrative by observations very much at random... Taken from The Murders of the Rue Morguehe's talking about analysis...just as a chees player can make moves without much thought but great skill...I do not write with thought but just write whatever pops into my head. Come to think of it who doesn't just Narrarate observations with random interfaces? Comments? It's the same thing that I do with my art....I just get the idea for something and do it....I often think about what I have done only after I have completed it. It's the same thing with my writing, or at least it used to be. My English class has pretty much destroyed that--I've taken two years of college English online, and everything is analyze this and quote that....you really can't just write what comes into your head and get good grades--you have to support your ideas. Which can be a good thing--my natural talent at writing needed (and still needs) structure and disipline in order to make it better. I think that this is what Poe is saying--you can have a great writer (a writer who does things grammatically correct, analyzes and supports, uses rhetoric with ease, etc.) without other aspects that are conveyed upon 'great' writers--like passion, interest, originality, etc...; and so, not all writers who are labeled 'great' are also all of those other things. I also believe that many people don't just narrate their observations with random inferences. They consider things like how other people will react to their observations, what is important to include and what isn't, what they want to say, what they want to mean by what they say....etc.... Most often it is the people who don't care enough to think about those things when they speak, write, etc... who say or write or draw things with no real thought put into them. It takes some amount of natural talent to be able to do these things with no thought and still mean at least partially what you say. Refinement of that talent is how we come by the orators, writers, artists, politions, etc... that we admire, that have worked enough on their talent that they can use it with little thought--just like the samurai were trained to do. They did their actions daily, until they could do it without thought at the master level--but they needed to also learn to consider other things like justice and truth when using their skills--they could have the skills without the thought, but what would that be worth? There's some more food for thought....I must quit this segment.
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 8:41 pm
There has been similar situations in my life aswell. For example, I didn't know at first what kind of a Mother's Day gift I would give to my mother. But then I had the idea to paint fer a picture. However I didn't know what to paint so I decided to draw a rough sketch first. Then I closed my eyes and thought of my mother and I painted a beautiful landscape for her. This painting was entered into the fair, mostly to collect the piont of views of other people.
By the way I have only read Edger Allen Poe's typical writtings like The Monkeys Paw. What you wrrote was difficult for me to understand, thank you for explaining it. smile
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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:31 am
I do that all the time when Im writing
I sit down have no idea what to write and then my doodling turns into words and when it stops its really good I love it when that works whee
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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:20 am
No one can truly annalyse what edgar Mean in his writings without first interpreting the man himself. Edgar was a genious and remains to be one, but some of his ideas ((Being as he was an abstract thinker)) were far fetched to word it lightly. his concepts of life and death were far from idealistic and more into fanatic or even morbidly comical. he marvelled into its beauty and eventually just slipped into insanity. i trust that he was not fully lost when he did most of his writings, but the raven tipped me off to his true nature. the man was a lunatic, but was blessed with the most beautiful mind.
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Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 5:59 am
Edgar Allen Poe. *smiles fondly* My views of him are tainted from reading The Sandman, I fear. Having only ever read two pieces of the man's hand probably won't be of much use either.
That, and the Simpsons. o_o
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Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 6:49 am
Bo-Bo The Great No one can truly annalyse what edgar Mean in his writings without first interpreting the man himself. Edgar was a genious and remains to be one, but some of his ideas ((Being as he was an abstract thinker)) were far fetched to word it lightly. his concepts of life and death were far from idealistic and more into fanatic or even morbidly comical. he marvelled into its beauty and eventually just slipped into insanity. i trust that he was not fully lost when he did most of his writings, but the raven tipped me off to his true nature. the man was a lunatic, but was blessed with the most beautiful mind. Actually, I had this discussion with a co-worker. It seems to me that most 'brilliant' people are crazy in one way or another. Frank Lloyd Wright never changed his clothes (for years) and never took a bath--but he created intriguing buildings and many people consider him to have had 'genius.' I'm sure if you look back in time, the people we have found to be the most inspiring are the craziest as well. Ever seen the Aviator? I suggest you watch it if you're interested in seeing psychotic brillance.
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Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 7:02 am
Cirendia Bo-Bo The Great No one can truly annalyse what edgar Mean in his writings without first interpreting the man himself. Edgar was a genious and remains to be one, but some of his ideas ((Being as he was an abstract thinker)) were far fetched to word it lightly. his concepts of life and were far from idealistic and more into fanatic or even morbidly comical. he marvelled into its beauty and eventually just slipped into insanity. i trust that he was not fully lost when he did most of his writings, but the raven tipped me off to his true nature. the man was a lunatic, but was blessed with the most beautiful mind. Actually, I had this discussion with a co-worker. It seems to me that most 'brilliant' people are crazy in one way or another. Frank Lloyd Wright never changed his clothes (for years) and never took a bath--but he created intriguing buildings and many people consider him to have had 'genius.' I'm sure if you look back in time, the people we have found to be the most inspiring are the craziest as well. Ever seen the Aviator? I suggest you watch it if you're interested in seeing psychotic brillance. I can top that. I'm not interested in seeing it, I'm interested in having it. But that's a thought for another thread. Normally, I just sit down, wait for a thought, and write it down. By the time I've had to or three thoughts, I'm writing. For instance, I just won a story contest with a 2500-word story that took me a week to write, but I started it with a single thought.
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