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Wow, complicated. Though I thought we were deciding on an advice stickie or forum? I'm not sure where that's been going....

Anyhow. Be with the one you're in love with. Though I will say if he's highly religious, then that may pose a problem. You could always tell your family that you still believe whatever but are doing this to be with him. It doesn't mean anything. All of it is really is only ceremony.

Really it's your call. Who do you love? Who is your forever?

That's quite the predicament you're in. Two guys who obviously love you, but one will only be with you if you convert.

I personally think that love shouldn't have conditions. There are many couples who have different religions and they respect eachother enough not to say "Well either you choose my faith or 'we' won't work". But then there are people who convert because the love is so strong between them.

But I ask you...are you willing to be disowned from your family? If your relationship goes through rough patches, can you manage on your own without any support? I know that personally, I need to have support from my family..not in the sense that they have to support my choices, but knowing that if things get complicated/stressed, that I can turn to them and know that they're there for me.

It comes down to this...are you will to sacrifice your family for the sake of a relationship? What happens if things don't work out between the both of you? *I'm not trying to be overly negative, just realistic* Then you have lost your family...it's a big sacrifice, could you do it?

*strokes chin and thinks.. then thinks.. and thinks some more.. then thinks very harshly and gets a nosebleed.. * "I've got it! I strongly dissaprove of the religious guy. Im gonna be blunt and express my opinion, so if i were you i would take my advise not as Advise, ... but.. uhh.. advise? "

*shakes head*

"First off, yuo highly love the religous Jew, he seems to have strong feelings for you, but currently only wants to be a friend, Right? Just making things clear. He doesnt wanna get together with ya because your not jew, and so this makes him think it's either all or nothing? Convert or forget?.. I think this is a huge sign that he isnt truely in loev with you. A guy that is highly in love with a girl shoudnt have to worry about something as simple as religon. And if His family finds out you actually don't believe in a god, and your family finds out your converting to something you dont even believe in, it'd only pose a TON of problems, and make your life alot more complicated, if not miserable. "

*Raises two fingers* "And then theres guy number two. This guy seems to really really like you, and seems to have even agreed to wait till your thirty to marry, if your available. This is a strong sign, and making yourself unavailable with him with at that age would make you feel extremly guilty. I mean, you'd probably end up saying, "Why did i end up facing all these religous problems instead of having a simply and fun marriage with guy #2?"

Hmm, that seems like a shallow thought, but im gonna have to stick by it, i mean think about it. neutral

Plus, he makes you contempt and happy, And, even you dont actually love him, he seems like a much smarter choice... Maybe he would even be able to sit down and raise a stable family. "

Its always nice to help a friend in need heart 3nodding

Hideki, And it is greatly appreciated 3nodding heart

Leviticus, **Hugs** Thanks. As for sitting down with him, yeah weve talked about it. Not in terms of us, but weve talked about how important is was to him and if he would ever compromise about it. Its all or nothing to him, either his girl is Jewish or she cant be his. Its simple a black and white and issue. And what I realized is its not worth it to lose so much just for one person. And because i am so anti organized religion, the idea of me becomeing a practicing Jewish girl would be like living a lie.