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[Vicious Lollypop]

PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 2:20 pm


Hey all you MCR fans.
Its me, Vicious Lollypop, (Also known as Bang_Bang_xx)
Here yet again to throw some opinions in your face and make your blood boil.

Attemisc IT'S ON! rofl Nah, I love ya. You're a great guy to argue with! :Heart:

The Black Parade.
Wow, what a new turn for MCR yes?

Well, just between you and I, it pains me so to listen to it.

I mean, sure, some of the songs are pretty good, I'm talking The Sharpest Lives, House Of Wolves, This Is How I Disappear and Sleep.

But that is where it ends.

For me, it just feels like somethings missing. The whole 1940's war/circus/theatre theme is fine, I think its rather rad, but somethings DEFINITELY missing.

The lyrics don't hide anything anymore. They don't show a million different meanings, they don't make you wonder or imagine. They are just words that are clever at rhyming (except of course the special ones like Cancer, I hope my uncle didn't have to go through all that crap before he died crying ) You don't need to ask someone else their views on the lyrics of the song, or read an interview where the band has had to express their ideas, you just know what its about.
I got hooked to My Chem because of its amazing way of telling a story, WITHOUT actually verbally saying, "The girl has just been caught cheating" etc. I mean, I had no idea the Early Sunsets Over Monroeville is based on Dawn Of The Dead, but as soon as my friend told me, it all made sense.

Thats what I miss. I miss it soooo bad.

I know that I am an avid fan of Bullets and more of the rockier/punkier music in Sweet Cheers, which will of course sway my opinion because The Black Parade is nothing like these two. Its gone in a different direction etc etc. I just wish against all will the MCR will have fun with this album, sure, go rock out to it, whatever, but they will come back to the studio, and make something closer to where MCR began. Where it all started. Because thats where they got success, thats where they blew international lines in 4 years. Some bands can't even find huge amounts of fans in 20 years, let alone MCR's 4.

People loved them because that WAS them.

I'll continue to listen to The Black Parade, I mean, its not like like someone's pouring acid into your ears, its okay sure, but its nothing like the old stuff.

ONCE again, this is my opinion,
I will respect yours if you in turn do it to mine.
Nothing is wrong or right,
Its all how you think about it really.

Oh and btw,
DUDE I won VIP tickets to freakin BDO! (did you hear me on the edge? Teh name was Hayley lol)
Come to me MCR!
WOOOO!
-Air punches-
YEAH!
PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 4:02 pm


I agree with a lot of with you said... well, mostly that The Black Parade isn't as good as Bullets or Revenge. I love Bullets sooo much, and the new stuff is just sokay. But besides all that, they're still the coolest people ever, totally my heros...
So I dunno. I just pretty much love them forever, just for who they are.

Lima_Bean_Man


Elaborate Testes

PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 4:32 pm


I agree. Their mysticalness that first made me fall in love with MCR has disappeared. D: Now it really just is way too straightforward. Thanks for saying this. <3

What happened?!?! T.T
PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 4:55 pm


well for one thing good job on voicing ur opinion.

i think the new cd is awesome. They r trying new things and their sound is maturing.
they were inspired by classic albums like the wall by Pink Floyd and it really shows in the songs.
They still have that element of eerie and hoorror and they are telling a storie just now its the whole album that's the story and not just one song. The thing to do now if figuring out how it goes. How the patient, which is the character, is going through death which is represented by the black parade.
Yeah i didn't know about all of this until i read some interviews and i sit there listening to the whole cd to figure out how the story goes.
So don't knock it too hard. It still has lots of potential!!!
emo emo emo

blacklitttleheart


[Vicious Lollypop]

PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 5:00 pm


blacklitttleheart
well for one thing good job on voicing ur opinion.

i think the new cd is awesome. They r trying new things and their sound is maturing.
they were inspired by classic albums like the wall by Pink Floyd and it really shows in the songs.
They still have that element of eerie and hoorror and they are telling a storie just now its the whole album that's the story and not just one song. The thing to do now if figuring out how it goes. How the patient, which is the character, is going through death which is represented by the black parade.
Yeah i didn't know about all of this until i read some interviews and i sit there listening to the whole cd to figure out how the story goes.
So don't knock it too hard. It still has lots of potential!!!
emo emo emo


Hey, fair enough. I see what you're saying. Thanks for the post 3nodding
PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 5:39 pm


I love The Black Parade! I can definately see where your coming from, this CD is very different from Three Cheers and Bullets. But Three Cheers is also very different from Bullets. In my opinion I think The Black Parade is a fairly intellegent album. The contents although very straight forward makes the listeners think of issues such as gun violence among teens, terrorism, morality and love. I also think that it's possible that the band realize their are now mainstream and thus needed lyrics that are more straight forward for the majority of listeners to comprehend.

Bullets and Three Cheers are the foundation of the band's image, and I think any MCR fan could agree that those two albums ROCK! And The Black Parade was a big blow in the face for all of us, I mean I wasn't expecting anything like The Black Parade to tel you the truth. Like I said before each MCR album is unique and the fourth album will be something completetly different from The Black Parade. MCR is constantly envolving and I think it's exciting to watch them change! I mean it's better to hear a band change their sound from each album rather than to listen to the same style for 3 albums.

<3 Dai

Daisukii


Kira Tsume

PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 7:46 pm


In my opinion, I believe that The Black Parade is their best album to date. I find the concept innovative, the lyrics genius, and the music itself a blend of classic rock and that essance that is just plain MCR. I believe My Chemical Romance has evolved and really grown with this album, and frankly, I just can't stop listening to this album. I feel they have come into their own with this album and can't just be sterotyped as "emo" anymore.
PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 8:30 pm


Give me a shot to remember

And you can take all the pain away from me


I understand your view. When I first heard the whole of The Black Parade, there were some songs I didn't exactly like which I found odd because I can listen to Bullets and Revenge back to front without skipping a track ((except Monroeville. Something about that song makes me cringe though I love the fact that "there's a corpse in this bed"")).

Personally, I love the vision they had for the album and the fact it nearly killed them to make it definitely adds to the idea. But I think they've remained the same in some aspects. Their lyrics are still filled with black humor and they can definitely rock like nobody's business. So I really dig The Black Parade but I can understand why others might not.

I don't understand though why people wanted them to make an
album similar to Bullets. I've been hearing that a lot, and don't get me wrong, Bullets is a marvelous album but bands don't usually digress and go back to what they did on their debut. I think they've retained their intensity and passion from that album, as well as Three Cheers so I'm wondering what makes Bullets so special that people want another one?


A kiss and I will surrender
The sharpest lives are the deadliest to lead

S E X L 3 X I A


zawazawaii

PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:59 pm


I love the new CD so far (I JUUUUST bought it), but I do see what you mean. I miss it too. crying

I actually like Bullets more than Three Cheers, or even Black Parade so far.

But the only thing I really regret about The Black Parade, is that it's hard to hear Gerard. I don't know if it's his singing style is just distorted and dramatic and the guitars just tend to drown to him out, or if my headphones just suck (They're bass-booster headphones, so they tend to drown out all noise that isn't instrumental).
PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 6:05 am


I really respect Vicious Lollypop for voicing her opinions.
Not many people would be brave enough to post that rant in a guild full of MCR obsessives.

When I first heard 'Welcome To The Black Parade', it was played live at the VMAs. As I heard that first slow verse, I was awestruck. What the hell had MCR done to themselves? I was despairing. But then the guitars kicked in and I was so happy. I'd heard they were going in a different direction but I'd honestly believed they'd just destroyed themselves. The more I listened to that song, the more I fell in love with every single part of it. Even if now it is a little overplayed. [Huge understatement].

So when all my friends started buying the Black Parade album, I was getting really excited and agitated because I wanted it so much. Finally the faithful day came. I bought it, came home and put it on immediately. I listened to it repeatedly for hours that night as I was online. And I was a little disappointed. There was no 'oomph'. There was little that stood out on first listening. The thing that stood out most was the bonus track. And that's not saying a lot!

I was disappointed but was adamant that I liked the album. I wouldn't admit to anyone how I felt about it, least of all myself. However the more I've listened to it, the more I'm liking it. I do now very much like the album. Although I still agree that there's something missing. I feel too many of the songs are a little slow. Dead! is my favourite because it has a little life in it.

I wasn't expecting them to recreate Bullets or Three Cheers. I adore both of those albums and find myself falling in love with MCR every time I hear them. But did they take their step in a new direction, a step too far?

SystemOfaDani


ghostmelody

PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 9:03 am


Alright, so forewarning: I have a horrible memory, so if I forget something previously written and say it again, sorry for wasting your time. Also, don't feel like any of this is meant as a personal attack towards anybody. It's just my general opinion, and for all I know, nobody even fits the criteria of what I'm saying. Everybody has the right to voice their own opinion and I respect anybody who does... (though I can only tolerate so much... but believe me, it is VERY hard to go past "so much"... and if you think it's bad that I won't tolerate absolutely everything, just let me know and I will tell you why)

First off, I get the vibe some of MCR's fans think that some of the newer era fans (TCFSR era) are just sort of gritting their teeth and bearing it. "It's MCR... it has to be good... it's MCR... it has to be good." If you don't like MCR's new style, don't force yourself to listen to them. It's as simple as that. I happen to love MCR's new sound and, personally, I like it better than both Bullets and Revenge combined. It's not because I'm a "fake fan" or a "teeny" (I should know how to spell that by now sweatdrop ); it's because I actually like the music. Let's face it; I'm a sucker for epic-ness. Certain chords will automatically hook me to a song (which, I suppose, is why they call them "hooks"), which Revenge was absolutely loaded with. Bullets didn't have as many, and thats one of the main reasons it's my least favorite. The Black Parade, though, just completely blows both of them out of the water.

As for the meanings of songs, I can say I agree with Lollypop on the fact that there isn't as much to interpret in the lyrics. But in my opinion, so what? I think it's almost more fun to work off an existing story and add to it whatever I can come up with. Not only that, but sometimes songs with definite direction are necessary. They just... work. What I think is even more fun with songs is to create videos based off the song, not stories. So what if everybody knows what "House of Wolves" is about? Bet no one else on Earth will come up with the same vid-jio I did for it mrgreen Not only that, but MCR have really driven the point home that The Black Parade is a concept album; their most conceptual one to date. Doesn't that imply that there's, I don't know, imagery? A story line? A plot? Just because TBP's not as freeform as Revenge doesn't mean I can't enjoy it, and it's obviously not stopping a lot of people.

There's my lurvly rant... it's all I accomplish when I'm bored. Hopefully no one will hate me for it (can I stress the seven-letter word "O-P-I-N-I-O-N" enough?) and I would actually, honest to God, like to know whether you agree or disagree with me
PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 3:04 pm


Well i'm an avid MCR fan and yeah bullets is my favourite album. I agree that the new album isn't as mystical but 3 cheers was supposed to be a consept album and when i first heard it through i loved it and i still do but it was from a thesps point of view a bit of a half arsed attempt at adding drama to there music.

Maybe I just like welcome to the black parade because i can use it in my drama work but maybe its because it gives me a sence of my mortality.... I mean I hang out in my local grave yard a lot not because i'm sick and get a kick out of death and not cause i'm religeous but because i'm 16 and you feel immortal at this age. That music makes me think about being there and looking death in the ******** eyes and realising that i'll be dead one day and i've gotta seize it.

In that respect i think theres a lot more to these songs then that meets the eye and however you look at it the guys achieved what they set out to do. Also queen was the greatest ******** band of there time and speaking as MCR as my favourite band Freddy was the greatest front man EVER. I will argue this to the day i die nobody could beat that man as a all round great performer or his band as just ******** awsome if the guys are taking ideas from one of the greatest bands of all time i can't see how it can go wrong!

[.Transexual Walrus]


Orlyescence

PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 8:10 am


Yah... I agree , when I first listened to TBP, I was all, eeew... this really doesn't sound Like MCR...
PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 8:20 pm


I love My Chemical Romance and personally. I loved the transition. At first it was confused, but it grew on me. I mean if you think about like many bands can't transforms themselves like My Chem did for this one album. Some bands fall apart when they try something like this. I admire them for the change and I love whatever My Chem has to offer.

Lillith NightGale


Psychotic Episode

PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 5:38 am


Firstly, kudos to you. I'd be terrified to post that here, for fear of being chased out of the guild and/or beheadded.

I agree with what you said about the lyrics, I think that this album is a lot more about 'the feel' as oppossed to 'the words' which I think is true for Bullets and 3 Cheers. I loved the lyrics before, but I love the feel of this album so much more. Bullets is my favourite, but I think Black Parade is their best (contradiction much?). It may just be me, but when I put it on and started reading the booklet I actually cried (repeat that to anyone and I'll kill you) because I was so proud of them and I was so impressed. Maybe I'm also delusional, but I was so glad because it actually felt like a natural evolution to me, I could hear things that reminded me of Bullets and 3 Cheers, and other bands I like haven't done that *cough30secondstomarscough*.

I like the straighforwardness personally (new word!), I don't think the more mysterious/metaphorical lyrics would have worked on this album.



On a side note, they didn't play ANY songs from Bullets at Brixton. That made me sad =(
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