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Akanishi Makoto Vice Captain
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 12:46 pm
I was hoping to get some input and some help from the guild on this one.
I have a very good friend with whom I have just come into contact with again. Now, she is very Christian, and I am now very Buddhist, but was not when I had known her.
Now, our argument and discussion is thus: I can't accept Christ's divinity and God, because accepting that would mean that I have to accept everything it stands for and accept their rules and laws, and in essence, cease to be a Buddhist and become a Christian. I don't think that a belief in God is productive to my finding Nirvana, nor do I think that it's anything more than another attachment to this reality.
She just doesn't understand that, and I can't think of a way to make her understand. She doesn't understand how I don't have a personal relationship with Christ, and she doesn't understand how I don't believe in God. That apparently is her stopblock, the agnosticism.
One particular point in the conversation, I gave in, and said, "Ok, God exists. What has changed?" Her reply was, "Just because you've come to the realization that God exists, doesn't discount his existence prior to your realization. He has always been." Granted, by semantics, she's right, but still, whether or not I believe, it serves no end to a Buddhist, does it not?
I'm looking for some discussion here.
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 10:10 pm
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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 5:15 pm
I can accept God (not the Abrahamic version, mind you), but not Jesus. The problem I have with Jesus is this:Quote: If we're all God's children, then what's so special about Jesus? It's interesting to note as well that most people who say the follow Christ's teachings are all too quick to reject what Christ actually taught, in favor of the other junk in the Bible (which speak kindly of rape and slavery). If one is going to follow Christ, then one necessarily has to reject a lot of what the other authors of the Bible have written.
Reading the Sermon on the Mount, I'm reminded of the Buddhist teachings. The whole "eye for an eye" thing has been taken out of context by so many people, the exact verse says to never take an eye for an eye, but to forgive. It says to love everyone (sinners included) as God loves everyone - to be perfect as God in Heaven is perfect. This exact teaching reminds me of the Buddhist saying, "when you sit, sit like a Buddha. Be Buddha."
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Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 9:10 pm
Well, this is my opinion and some thoughts which always come through whenever I meet people with different religions.
I argued with my friend when I was in senior high school. We talked quite a lot about our differences. He believes that God created everything in the world and gave human beings to rule over animals. I talked more and, at the end, I never received any good solution to the problem. In fact, I should know that whatever they believe, let it be inputs to my mind and understand what's going on while differ each belief.
The next one may not related to your discussion. But, I just want to give you some of my experience. Once, I attended a small lecture in a house. The person explained that if we ask a question, there will be no ending to the question. He gave us an example. If he asked a question on universe, what kind of questions will you have? Based on those questions, there will be more links to other questions and more answers needed to be discussed. So, he said that there is no beginning and there is no end.
I know it is difficult to believe what your friend's belief, but, in my opinion, it is better to accept whatever she believes. Anyway, it is only my opinions.
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