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Blank Disk

PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 1:25 am


I'm talking about the circles and lines. Last year I couldn't do it for nothing, then it hit me: STOP READING "HOW TO DRAW MANGA." I just started taking pics of me and circling the joints and using curved lins for my chest, stomach, and groin area. I found it a lot easier but now I can't draw girls all the time. I either draw the breast too high or too low. Advice please.

Do you use any kind of layout and ifso can you post it here or describe it?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 1:37 pm


I just sort of go as I like. I usually draw the head and face with all the details first(except the hair) becaus I usually end up drawing a wonderful eye, except that's it's either too big or small for the face. stressed So I end up reasing teh head and drwaing around the details. After that I draw the body.

I can't draw male hips very well, even with anatomy books, and it's sort of embarrassing to be looking at a guy's torso, hips and legs for a while only to have him catch you and ask you what you're staring at. Has happened too many times for me before. sweatdrop

boo_moo


Hansyuan

PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 4:23 pm


boo_moo
I just sort of go as I like. I usually draw the head and face with all the details first(except the hair) becaus I usually end up drawing a wonderful eye, except that's it's either too big or small for the face. stressed So I end up reasing teh head and drwaing around the details. After that I draw the body.

I can't draw male hips very well, even with anatomy books, and it's sort of embarrassing to be looking at a guy's torso, hips and legs for a while only to have him catch you and ask you what you're staring at. Has happened too many times for me before. sweatdrop


pfft! don't be embarrased to look at those anatomy books that display the details of a male gential (did I spell that right?). its not like you're looking at pr0n, your looking at references for drawing 3nodding

or if its a real guy, just jab him with a pencil and say "TIS AN ARTIST AT WORK!! NYAR!"





Dun dun dun!
The key is: Remember your "S" curves!

If its a person, draw a 'line of movement' first. Find out how the person is bending/twisting their body. Females especially have dynamic S-curves (most of the time). From there I just see how the legs would be placed to make the character look like it has gravity: make sure it looks like they're planted firmly on the ground (or if they are jumping, trippng, make it look like they are. Get some pictures from Google of martial artists. Or go to an elementary school playground and do some sketches)

Exaggerate the pose! If you're sketching someone runninig away from the neighbours dog, make them look like they're running for their goddamn life and anything they run into will be roadkill.

As for the circles: There is no circle!!! Bwahahaha! (teehee, j/k) I guess for the really basic stuff you just simplify the human figure into flat shapes. In most cases, circles are the best choise (some people use boxes or even triangles)
Then they detail the figure from there.

Just to note, a lot of people forget to put in certain anomilies when drawing figures (unless its anime or toony, but even those still have distortions). What makes the person look old? young? female? juvenile? There's more to making a character look old than putting a few wrinkle lines in the face. There's the posture and the way the picture portrays the movement of the old fart. The same goes for a neighbourhood brat: the way he/she acts, interacts with people and objects, their size, etc. The proportions will come when the idea of the character is set.

lol, and for breasts; if you rest your arm at the base of your neck, the breasts will approximatley start underneath that arm (unless ya have thick arms, haha!)


*whew!* I think I put too much useless stuff in there. What was the question again? xd

EDIT: oh, and of course, check out http://www.conceptart.org/forums


Stuff, incase you have no idea what I'm talking about sweatdrop or this might just confuse you more, I dunno

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Bending Figures. sorry for the crap-scans

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 5:16 pm


Thanks you two

Blank Disk


Hansyuan

PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 6:07 pm


NP 3nodding
PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 7:29 pm


If you are still looking for drawing guidebooks, I would suggest this website:

http://www.saveloomis.org/

These are books by Andrew Loomis. They are out of print and free online. I would recommend them highly over "How to Draw Manga" books because they teach anatomy and drawing ideals that hold up no matter what style you choose to draw in.

Of course copying pictures of real people also helps. If you need something to draw - just do a Google Image Search. That's what I do.

Lierne


Blank Disk

PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 7:56 pm


Thanks
PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 10:00 pm


I personally like the "how to draw" series, I bought the anime and game characters book and it's given me useful insights on drawing. I don't really draw the circles, but I find drawing the "bones" helps me out a great deal. Otherwise I end up drawing midgets or oddly proportioned people. >/

Perhaps the greatest help was the simple suggestion from the book to draw feet as elongated diamonds (if you look down on the foot) or triangles (only from the side) in the skeletal view. It's made drawing feet a lot easier for me.

Feynt


Darksortie

PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 2:34 pm


No! I'm accustom to drawing the form first then adding the details to it. It's more complicated to do it that way, but its how I learned to draw. However I may use a frame if I'm drawing a difficult pose, and I need to make sure that the proportions are correct.
PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 2:49 pm


Darksortie
No! I'm accustom to drawing the form first then adding the details to it. It's more complicated to do it that way, but its how I learned to draw. However I may use a frame if I'm drawing a difficult pose, and I need to make sure that the proportions are correct.
cool

Blank Disk


Look

PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 8:23 am


=) you mean stick figures. ^^
I always use stick figures, then build on blocks on top of them. They are very helpful.

and like Hansyuan mentioned, always remember that the spine is curved, not straight. Keep that in mind when you do the sketch, it'll help your character to look a lot more relaxed. =)
PostPosted: Fri Dec 24, 2004 9:05 pm


I generally don't do a full stick figure, but I almost always plot out the spine.

Tsukiyono

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