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 Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 7:13 am
Althera My source on the Christmas tree one was an old teacher of mine. He's travelled around the world alot so he's learn quite a few things on the way. I haven't even heard about such an event in legend. Sounds fictitious to me.
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 7:52 pm
o.O ok. I'm going to put up front that I have no proof that this is accurate or factual but I got it from a teacher of mine and found it rather funny so...yay sharing!
How the lifting of the middle finger became a universal sign for F*ck you
Long ago, whenever there were wars among the peoples of England, it was custom that when one captured the archers from the opposing side that they would cut off their middle finger, the finger customarily used to pluck the bow string. Whenever the enemy lost and were retreating, surrendering, etc, the archers would hold up their middle fingers to show that they still had them in complete defiance of the enemies. Saying "pluck you" was saying that they would kill those still living if they fought again.
Eventually, "Pluck" degraded into "********" so the story goes...
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Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 9:09 pm
Althera I've made that last one my philosophy to avoid photos ^^ Okay Christmas tree time! This one is rather gross so I'm going to put it in white, that way people who don't like this sort of thing don't have to read it. Just highlight it if you do! Back before any major cities started appearing in Europe (years before the supposed birth of Christ), most of Europe was just small towns an villages. They had a weird set of rules. Once a year there would be a contest of strengths and skills. The young men came and competed for what is an okay prize I suppose. Whoever wins is declared, effectively 'King' of the village and for a whole year they can have whatever they want, no-one can say no to them for anything. Sure that sounds like it's great but it comes at a cost. At the end of the year, the village elders take the 'King' out into the woods and nail him to a tree. I don't know if they kill him before they do this or whether he's still alive. Then then begin to butcher him, removing all his internal organs and decorating the tree with the organs. The heart is nailed above his head (the star) the intestines are wrapped around the tree (tinsel) and the other parts are hung up too (all the other ornaments that go on a tree). Personally I think the village elders were just bitter that they never won so they set this up but either way this is where Christmas trees came from.Okay there it is! thta...is...SWEET!!!
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Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 3:19 pm
sleeping_seraphim o.O ok. I'm going to put up front that I have no proof that this is accurate or factual but I got it from a teacher of mine and found it rather funny so...yay sharing! How the lifting of the middle finger became a universal sign for F*ck you Long ago, whenever there were wars among the peoples of England, it was custom that when one captured the archers from the opposing side that they would cut off their middle finger, the finger customarily used to pluck the bow string. Whenever the enemy lost and were retreating, surrendering, etc, the archers would hold up their middle fingers to show that they still had them in complete defiance of the enemies. Saying "pluck you" was saying that they would kill those still living if they fought again. Eventually, "Pluck" degraded into "********" so the story goes... Actually, it was both the index finger and middle finger. Because you can still draw the bow with the index finger and thumb, as the Japanese archery art kyudo will show you. Which is why the index and middle finger held in a "V" sign is offensive in Britain among the working classes. As all archers were peasants. As for pluck you, that sounds like even more of a myth.
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:29 pm
Althera I've made that last one my philosophy to avoid photos ^^ Okay Christmas tree time! This one is rather gross so I'm going to put it in white, that way people who don't like this sort of thing don't have to read it. Just highlight it if you do! Back before any major cities started appearing in Europe (years before the supposed birth of Christ), most of Europe was just small towns an villages. They had a weird set of rules. Once a year there would be a contest of strengths and skills. The young men came and competed for what is an okay prize I suppose. Whoever wins is declared, effectively 'King' of the village and for a whole year they can have whatever they want, no-one can say no to them for anything. Sure that sounds like it's great but it comes at a cost. At the end of the year, the village elders take the 'King' out into the woods and nail him to a tree. I don't know if they kill him before they do this or whether he's still alive. Then then begin to butcher him, removing all his internal organs and decorating the tree with the organs. The heart is nailed above his head (the star) the intestines are wrapped around the tree (tinsel) and the other parts are hung up too (all the other ornaments that go on a tree). Personally I think the village elders were just bitter that they never won so they set this up but either way this is where Christmas trees came from.Okay there it is! oh dear! where did you get this horrible informaiton?
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Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 3:42 am
Susiowong [XxGuardianDevilxX] Dragon_Witch_Woman k-java the childrens rhyme, 'ring around the rosie', actually is referring to the black plag, several hundred years ago. To elaborate on that: "Ring around the rosies," (The Bubonic(sp?) Plage, also known as the Black Death, caused rings on the infected) "A pocket full of possies," (The infected stank, possies were put in peoples pockets to help control the stink) "Ashes, Ashes," (Bodies of the dead were burned to help stop the spread of Plage) "We all fall down!" (We're all gonna die!) Instead of "Ashes" I thought it was "Husha" or something along those lines sweatdrop . When I was in preschool we always said "Ha-shew ha-shew," or something like that. There's a lot of different ones for that line. =/ Hmm, I alwasy said "A tissue, a tissue" sweatdrop No idea why. Isnt the "ring around the rosies" a referance to rosary beads, like praying for the sickly? It is most probably both... xd Morbid rhymes...
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Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 4:18 pm
Jilly 05 Hmm, I alwasy said "A tissue, a tissue" sweatdrop No idea why. Isnt the "ring around the rosies" a referance to rosary beads, like praying for the sickly? It is most probably both... xd Morbid rhymes... It's "Atishoo", imitating a sneeze.
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:35 pm
ProphetSarcomeer Quote: I've made that last one my philosophy to avoid photos ^^ Okay Christmas tree time! This one is rather gross so I'm going to put it in white, that way people who don't like this sort of thing don't have to read it. Just highlight it if you do!
Back before any major cities started appearing in Europe (years before the supposed birth of Christ), most of Europe was just small towns an villages. They had a weird set of rules. Once a year there would be a contest of strengths and skills. The young men came and competed for what is an okay prize I suppose. Whoever wins is declared, effectively 'King' of the village and for a whole year they can have whatever they want, no-one can say no to them for anything. Sure that sounds like it's great but it comes at a cost. At the end of the year, the village elders take the 'King' out into the woods and nail him to a tree. I don't know if they kill him before they do this or whether he's still alive. Then then begin to butcher him, removing all his internal organs and decorating the tree with the organs. The heart is nailed above his head (the star) the intestines are wrapped around the tree (tinsel) and the other parts are hung up too (all the other ornaments that go on a tree). Personally I think the village elders were just bitter that they never won so they set this up but either way this is where Christmas trees came from. Okay there it is! whats the source on that>? i dont doubt you... but i had never heard that one before... although , i had heard about the ladies first one. heres one... this is more of a "why we say this" anyone heard the phrase "whole nine yards" going the whole nine yards? well, it originally referred to the celtic isles. the traditional length of a kilt was nine yards of fabric. putting it on was a rather large time commitment, and once you started, you finished. thus, going the whole nine yards... i hav heard of celtic and druid ceremonies like that, and of all thing=s the Canaanites in ancient Palestine had another king-for-a-year thing followed by sacrifice i believe, except it was a bloodletting and not actual death. the celts had a ritual of the "summer tree", and if there was drought or other disaster, the king had to be tied to this largest of oak trees (not pine) and exposed until he died, thus appeasing the supposedly angry gods.
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 4:09 pm
Jilly 05 Susiowong [XxGuardianDevilxX] Dragon_Witch_Woman k-java the childrens rhyme, 'ring around the rosie', actually is referring to the black plag, several hundred years ago. To elaborate on that: "Ring around the rosies," (The Bubonic(sp?) Plage, also known as the Black Death, caused rings on the infected) "A pocket full of possies," (The infected stank, possies were put in peoples pockets to help control the stink) "Ashes, Ashes," (Bodies of the dead were burned to help stop the spread of Plage) "We all fall down!" (We're all gonna die!) Instead of "Ashes" I thought it was "Husha" or something along those lines sweatdrop . When I was in preschool we always said "Ha-shew ha-shew," or something like that. There's a lot of different ones for that line. =/ Hmm, I alwasy said "A tissue, a tissue" sweatdrop No idea why. Isnt the "ring around the rosies" a referance to rosary beads, like praying for the sickly? It is most probably both... xd Morbid rhymes... Ring around the Rosie refers to how the symptoms of the plague looked. The infected would get large boils on their skin, and they looked like round rosettes with rings around them. About the middle finger thing: In Britain it is worse to hold up the 2nd two fingers (think backwards peace sign)
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