OokamiAngel
The following is taken from Frank Peretti's book 'No More Bullies'
History: This is the case of an 18-year-old white male who was the alleged victim of a self inflicted gunshot wound to the head that occurred in the Columbine High School library on 04/20/99. No other history is available at the time of autopsy.
External Examination: The body is clothed in a bloodstained white T-shirt with the inscription "Natural Selection" on the front...
On his web page Eric Harris listed many things he hated, but Darwin's theory of evolution, particularly his suggestion of natural selection, stood in stark contrast. Harris's words are the hauting result of a playground in chaos:
YOU KNOW WHAT I LOVE?
Natural Selection!...it's the best thing that ever happened to the earth. Getting rid of all the stupid and weak organisms...but it's all natural! YES!
When we pause to ponder what Eric Harris was waering on the day he helped shoot to death thirteen people, we are well on our way to explaining why it happened.
Highly respected aothor and theologian Ravi Zacharias offered a profound insight in the days following the Littleton tragedy:
When we have told our young people today that naturalism is true-we have evolved from nothing more than some primordial slime, we have told them objective moral values do not exist - you decide what is right and wrong for you; when we have told our young people that there is no ultimate destiny; when we have told them that man is the measure of all things, that there is no transcedent basis on which to find out what life is about and what life's goal is, why then are we surprised when we see the hell that is unleashed by that kind of philososphy?
It's all perfectly logical: If evolution is true, then there is no God. If there is no God, then there is no fixed external source of truth and morality, then truth and morality are left up to the individual. If the individual judges that killing all the "stupid and weak organisms" in his life is justified and right, then by what basis can we question his judgment? He's only following the moral compass evolution provides.
God is a moral God, a moral law giver, and He has written His moral law upon the heart of every human being.
When people try and get around this, it makes for a wacky world. They'll often smack into themselves coming the other way in the same sentence:
"It's wrong to impose your morals on others!"
Uh...pardon me, but when you tell me it's wrong to do someting, aren't you imposing your morals on me?
"There are no absolutes."
That in itself is an absolute statement.
"No one's moral opinion is valid because we all speak from how we've been indoctrinated."
Well, I guess that would apply to you as well, which would mean that what you've just said isn't valid either.
"Everyone should be able to belive whatever they want!"
Then why are you arguing with me?
"Life is meaningless!"
Would you consider that a meaningful statement?
"You can't know anything for sure."
You seem rather sure about that.
"Students, no view of reality is superior to any other."
Then why are you grading our papers?
"You have no right to say truth is external! We all create pur own reality!"
Then I'm your fault.
"Oh, here we go agian, another right-wing fundamentalist making bold assertions of fact!"
Pardon me, but didn't you just make a bold assertion of fact?
"There is no right and wrong."
Is that statment right or wrong?
"You can't tell anybody they're wrong."
Am I wrong in going so?
Discuss:
Your views on morality
What is written above
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History: This is the case of an 18-year-old white male who was the alleged victim of a self inflicted gunshot wound to the head that occurred in the Columbine High School library on 04/20/99. No other history is available at the time of autopsy.
External Examination: The body is clothed in a bloodstained white T-shirt with the inscription "Natural Selection" on the front...
On his web page Eric Harris listed many things he hated, but Darwin's theory of evolution, particularly his suggestion of natural selection, stood in stark contrast. Harris's words are the hauting result of a playground in chaos:
YOU KNOW WHAT I LOVE?
Natural Selection!...it's the best thing that ever happened to the earth. Getting rid of all the stupid and weak organisms...but it's all natural! YES!
When we pause to ponder what Eric Harris was waering on the day he helped shoot to death thirteen people, we are well on our way to explaining why it happened.
Highly respected aothor and theologian Ravi Zacharias offered a profound insight in the days following the Littleton tragedy:
When we have told our young people today that naturalism is true-we have evolved from nothing more than some primordial slime, we have told them objective moral values do not exist - you decide what is right and wrong for you; when we have told our young people that there is no ultimate destiny; when we have told them that man is the measure of all things, that there is no transcedent basis on which to find out what life is about and what life's goal is, why then are we surprised when we see the hell that is unleashed by that kind of philososphy?
It's all perfectly logical: If evolution is true, then there is no God. If there is no God, then there is no fixed external source of truth and morality, then truth and morality are left up to the individual. If the individual judges that killing all the "stupid and weak organisms" in his life is justified and right, then by what basis can we question his judgment? He's only following the moral compass evolution provides.
God is a moral God, a moral law giver, and He has written His moral law upon the heart of every human being.
When people try and get around this, it makes for a wacky world. They'll often smack into themselves coming the other way in the same sentence:
"It's wrong to impose your morals on others!"
Uh...pardon me, but when you tell me it's wrong to do someting, aren't you imposing your morals on me?
"There are no absolutes."
That in itself is an absolute statement.
"No one's moral opinion is valid because we all speak from how we've been indoctrinated."
Well, I guess that would apply to you as well, which would mean that what you've just said isn't valid either.
"Everyone should be able to belive whatever they want!"
Then why are you arguing with me?
"Life is meaningless!"
Would you consider that a meaningful statement?
"You can't know anything for sure."
You seem rather sure about that.
"Students, no view of reality is superior to any other."
Then why are you grading our papers?
"You have no right to say truth is external! We all create pur own reality!"
Then I'm your fault.
"Oh, here we go agian, another right-wing fundamentalist making bold assertions of fact!"
Pardon me, but didn't you just make a bold assertion of fact?
"There is no right and wrong."
Is that statment right or wrong?
"You can't tell anybody they're wrong."
Am I wrong in going so?
***
Discuss:
Your views on morality
What is written above
Using Columbine to say that atheists have no morals?!? The nerve! scream
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