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au-topsy-turvy

PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 7:17 am


I never heard of a person who actually plays cymbals as an independent instrument until I joined. D:

Anyways- how do you guys practice? I find it hard to remember my parts by clapping, and I assume that not everyone has their own pair at home. Do you guys rent out cymbals from the school? (My school only has 3 pairs of cymbals... I don't think my teacher's willing to let me bring home mine to practice) How do you guys improve your technique? I can play music fine but my technique is very messy and I don't have much opportunity to improve in class and clapping does not give the right simulation of big heavy cymbals and when we have to perform it sounds like I'm butchering it. xD

And a more general question to all musicians with loud instruments: for those who live in condo's, apt's, and townhouses: how do you play without annoying your neighbors and everyone in your house? Do you guys tell them to bite the bullet? Doing it on piano is easy, and you can simply unplug your guitar or play gently... but like drums and trumpets, do you guys have specific times you're allowed to play, go somewhere else... etc etc?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 11:19 pm


As a mallet player, the only time I really practice my music is at school during lunch, tutorial, whenever I have the time. My suggestion is also practice during lunch or something. One way to improve your technique (taking a stab at it here since I haven't actually seen you play) is to strengthen your arms. Hold your cymbals in each hand, eagle-spread them, then just keep them up there for as long as possible. Have someone time you to see how long you can do it. If it's the heaviness of the cymbals that messes with your technique, that will definitely help. There are some other exercises you can use to strengthen your arms, but that's the only one I can remember well enough to explain ^^''

Yeah.. about the practicing during lunch.. make the whole school wonder who the heck is playing crash cymbals! xD It'll be like *crash bang crash crash kangkangkangkang x.X;;;*

Our school doesn't have a cymbal line anymore, so.. all I suggested are just ideas.

Atekius


cheylani

PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 5:51 pm


Ah yes. The cymbals. I'm probably the only one in the whole band who actually plays the cymbals during our parade. I also have trouble practicing, though. And, like Atekius said, I would also suggest just holding them out for as long as you can. I got my workout during band camp, so I decided to get used to the weight then so it wouldn't bother me now. Just practice at lunch, after school, and it wouldn't hurt to pull them out and practice while everyone else is warming up independently.

We only have two pairs of cymbals: a very old marching pair that needs cleaning and repair very badly (one of them has a huge crack and has a big chip in the side) and the concert pair that we just got last semester, which are a little lighter and smaller, but still heavy.
PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 2:46 pm


cymbals rock!!! but anyways... I don't have a pair of cymbals at home. and they don't let us rent out the cymbals either. Sorry, but all i do is clap!

Flutietoot01


[I][Love][Pirates]

PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 5:44 pm


I clap my stuff out... But I also borrow my cymbals from school...
That doesnt help though cause I can't play them at home... my dad says they're too loud.

But yeah, clapping works.. = ]
PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 2:25 am


Me, being a cymbal player, i agree with what they said up top about holding your cymbals out as long as you can because that will help with technniue if you can hold them up longer. Oh, and if just claping doesn't help with practicing your music (cause it didn't help me) i suggest picking up 2 object of around the same weight, like heavy soup cans, and banging them together. Dont bang the hard enough to break the cans but hard but just enough to give you the feel of caring your cymbals and playing.

plus its not that loud.

frost monkey sr.


Flutietoot01

PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 9:10 am


it hurts ur arms. but then again- you'll have muscle at the end of drumline season!! haha!

CLAPPING WORKS!
PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 11:46 am


hi, cymball/mallot player here. i guess on my cymbal parts that i don't know. it helps to hear the band play the music. mark time while you practice, and it wil help you remember. ot also helps to practice with someone.

Death Note XPD154


omiyashi0

PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 6:10 pm


Ah man dude, I love playin the cymbals. I'm the only one in our band of 35. Have you ever watched "Drumline"? Lol, thats how I play my pair. I get into it, I don't mean to brag, but when it comes to half time, I own. The only time I practice, is during band sessions. Other than that, I just think on what I can do.

Yeah, if you're havin trouble with your strength, I agree with the holding your arms out idea, or work on your benchpress strength.
If your havin trouble playin the music, try workin out an after/before school practice session with your director.
Memorizing the music, thats a tough one. Just really focus on when your playin, listen to the band, see if your director can give you a signal to help you remember to play. : /
PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:48 am


Practice sizzling.

Good-Tennis


nat_natey

PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 5:03 pm


I play the cymbals for marching band, pep band, but not for Jazz band. The techneque I learned is to hold the cymbals, but not straight up and down but slanted, or almost horizontal. And keep them close together, just so they won't get out of control. I never practice, but I practice sometime before games, and during class at the beginning of the year, to learn parts, and stuff. But yeah, just benchpress and work up some good muscles. I don't read off music my band director gives me, I memorize what he tells me to.
PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 1:16 pm


Idk how I did it, I just know five years...no...almost six (whatever) of playing cymbals has left me half deaf and really good...I never really paid attention, it just came naturally....idk what to tell u except keep trying and wear earplugs!

Wahconah_Warrior


xxGas.Maskxx

PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 1:21 pm




well when ur using the acutal cymbals it anoys the crap out of people so use books or pillows it works

PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:03 pm


Clapping is only supposed to help you with a rhythm or timing. You can air prep and all if you need to.

And like the others said, you can take some time off and just hold your cymbals in set position for as long as you can. It helps develope your muscles.

Cymbal rhythms usually go right allong with the batery's beats. So, just listen to what they're playing and it should all peace together. I highly doubt that the person that wrote your music just puts in random crashes for the heck of it.

Technice usually just comes to you, but practice once in a while. While you're doing your excersices, make a mental checklist of what you're doing. It really helps.

KatannaSan

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