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Curium

PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 6:01 am


Siren of Saturn


Church norris isn't God and don't put him on that pedestal.

Catholics aren't christians.
Catholics have more faith in Mary then they do in God. And that good works will get you to heaven.

You can only be saved by grace which is obtained through salvation of Jesus Christ.


No crap...you really think I was being serious about Chuck Norris? Anyway.....Have you ever read the rules of this guild? Don't call any group of Christians non-Christian. Catholics are Christians. By definition, anyone who believes that Christ is Lord and Savior and is the Son of God and follows his teachings is considered a Christian. Ever hear the Nicene Creed?
"We believe in one God, the Father, the Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all that is, seen and unseen. We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, of one Being with the Father. Through him all things were made. For us and for our salvation he came down from heaven: by the power of the Holy Spirit he became incarnate from the Virgin Mary, and was made man. For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate; he suffered death and was buried. On the third day he rose again in accordance with the Scriptures; he ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father. He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead, and his kingdom will have no end. We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life, who proceeds from the Father and the Son. With the Father and the Son he is worshiped and glorified. He has spoken through the Prophets. We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church. We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins. We look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen."
They recite that every Mass at the Catholic church I went to when I was little. Don't bust on different denominations of Christianity just because they aren't the same as yours. I am not a Catholic, however, I still know that they are Christians.
PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 9:37 am


Curium
Siren of Saturn


Church norris isn't God and don't put him on that pedestal.

Catholics aren't christians.
Catholics have more faith in Mary then they do in God. And that good works will get you to heaven.

You can only be saved by grace which is obtained through salvation of Jesus Christ.


No crap...you really think I was being serious about Chuck Norris? Anyway.....Have you ever read the rules of this guild? Don't call any group of Christians non-Christian. Catholics are Christians. By definition, anyone who believes that Christ is Lord and Savior and is the Son of God and follows his teachings is considered a Christian. Ever hear the Nicene Creed?
"We believe in one God, the Father, the Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all that is, seen and unseen. We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, of one Being with the Father. Through him all things were made. For us and for our salvation he came down from heaven: by the power of the Holy Spirit he became incarnate from the Virgin Mary, and was made man. For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate; he suffered death and was buried. On the third day he rose again in accordance with the Scriptures; he ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father. He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead, and his kingdom will have no end. We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life, who proceeds from the Father and the Son. With the Father and the Son he is worshiped and glorified. He has spoken through the Prophets. We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church. We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins. We look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen."
They recite that every Mass at the Catholic church I went to when I was little. Don't bust on different denominations of Christianity just because they aren't the same as yours. I am not a Catholic, however, I still know that they are Christians.


Well...the way you and your friend were talking about him..i wasn't sure. *chuck norris i mean*
I know all about those jokes and have participated in them myself. I think they are rather amusing..but not in this kind of situation. I was in a hospital for a few weeks and my youth group made me a card...it had more chuck norris jokes then anything else ^_^..lol. So i guess i did think you guys were serious sweatdrop

And i did..but perhaps i forgot. I'm appologize for that. But...i was raised in a home where my family was always taking me to crazy churches. I think the calmest thing i've ever went to was Temple.
>_<
So no..i have never heard that :p I don't know anything about catholics besides what my mother tells me about when she used to be one. It was very confusing for her...and she said they weren't much help when she was searching for God.
I won't openly say that catholics aren't christians as i have been reminded of the rules...but moraly i don't agree that they are because our ways of getting to heaven are so different. Unless they agree that they need salvation. I'm not sure...as i'm not catholic.
But thank you for informing me. ^_^

Siren of Saturn


Curium

PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 4:22 pm


Ummmm....Catholics believe that Jesus is Christ and Lord. And accept him into them. Isn't that the same as being saved? Also, they believe you have to be a good person. But don't you have to be a good person anyway if you're a Christian? You can't just go around breaking all kinds of rules and laws and stuff.
PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 6:18 am


CHRISTIANS ARE CATHOLICS!

Peter broke off catholic and made the first prostant churhc,they just believe marys a prophet!

Man if you knew my grandfather he would hit you outside the head if you said,Catholi,Christian.

dirtdevilgrunt13


Curium

PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 6:51 am


LRD_nick
CHRISTIANS ARE CATHOLICS!

Peter broke off catholic and made the first prostant churhc,they just believe marys a prophet!

Man if you knew my grandfather he would hit you outside the head if you said,Catholi,Christian.


No...not all christians are catholics.....however, all catholics are christians. there is a difference in the two statements.

and...peter didn't make protestant churches....other people way way way after that did. the catholic church and the church of england had already been around for a really long time before protestantism arose. and peter didn't make catholicism either...
PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 7:28 am


Ok then..
This isnt a debate on Catholic/Christians.
Can you help me or not?

dirtdevilgrunt13


Curium

PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 4:24 pm


LRD_nick
Ok then..
This isnt a debate on Catholic/Christians.
Can you help me or not?


I already told you. Call a priest and get your house exorcised. It may or may not work. If it's a powerful demon it may just get really ticked off and possess a person.
PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 5:07 pm


LRD_nick
CHRISTIANS ARE CATHOLICS!

Peter broke off catholic and made the first prostant churhc,they just believe marys a prophet!

Man if you knew my grandfather he would hit you outside the head if you said,Catholi,Christian.


Ohhh...
how hard?
wink

Siren of Saturn


phantom912

PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 3:02 pm


ok, uh, arent u the same person who complained about evil spirits a long time ago?
PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 3:08 pm


LRD_nick
Masons are people of god..
Read the hstory,they go back,past the bible.

And I have done everything,I am a good christian my point of views are different thats all.

Maybe if I just quit,it would stop and have nothing to attack me about..
After all,my past has been catching up with me....

ok, uh, first off, i know a LOT about the masons. so i must say that most masons were involved in the occult.

phantom912


dirtdevilgrunt13

PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:47 am


Siren of Saturn
LRD_nick
CHRISTIANS ARE CATHOLICS!

Peter broke off catholic and made the first prostant churhc,they just believe marys a prophet!

Man if you knew my grandfather he would hit you outside the head if you said,Catholi,Christian.


Ohhh...
how hard?
wink
LOL
Hard enough that now I remeber!
LOL
PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:48 am


phantom912
LRD_nick
Masons are people of god..
Read the hstory,they go back,past the bible.

And I have done everything,I am a good christian my point of views are different thats all.

Maybe if I just quit,it would stop and have nothing to attack me about..
After all,my past has been catching up with me....

ok, uh, first off, i know a LOT about the masons. so i must say that most masons were involved in the occult.
Ok.
I have a topic for masons in the Debate and Discussion forum on here!
Bring it there!

And yes I am...
And I fixed that!
But this one,I hate to say it is barly taking me to my knees!

dirtdevilgrunt13


CPUGenuis

PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 3:20 pm


alrighty, since these guys have stranded you in thier mason debates and chuck norris jokes, i will try to help you.

what did it EXACTY say, and what did it EXACTLY look like?
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