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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 8:25 am


shadowpunk360
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I'm a vegetarian myself, but I think being a human carnivore is absolutely natural. Nature is nature.



burning_eyes your kiding right ....

1 humans cant kill animals with out help

2 look at our intestans and a cat our are 7to8 times longer than our body whal a cats only 2 to 3 times longer ...the pont being if you eat meat it rots in you be for it comes out

3 and teeth ...do i even have to exp;ane this to you?

for many other facts read a healthe vegitarian by sri swami sachidananda
Know, what? Just go back and read Skeksis's post. That basically says everything I was going to.

Cats are carnivores who get very ill if too much of anything else is brought into their diet. Humans are omnivores, like chimpanzees. We have flat teeth for grinding, but still have small canines for biting and tearing. Herbivores like horses do not have canines at all, only flat teeth and incisors. If they do get sharp teeth, they are "wolf toothed." These teeth only grow in the back of the jaw, like a human's wisdom tooth, and they are not useful and often very uncomfortable for the horse. Therefore, since our canines and grinding teeth are natural, and our stomachs and intestines can process meat, we are omnivores. Herbivores have intestinal tracts much proportionately longer than ours.

And as for the getting sick. No. Just no. I was born with medical problems about which I will not bother to explain, and such things lead to a lower immune system. Eating better has helped me an infinite amount. I get sick when I don't eat normally, not when I do. I eat only low-fat meats and drink only skim milk. And as for milk.... I've grown up drinking plenty of it, and i must say that I have some of the strongest bones I've seen. There are plenty of times they should have broken when they didn't.


Besides, even if we were to entirely stop breeding holstein cows now, we would still have to milk those remaining. They are bred to a point where they need milked, even if they are nursing their calf, or their udders will explode. Several milking goats are the same way.

And you completely ignored comments I made about animal's violence toward each other and my mom needing to eat meat for medical health reasons. I do very much want her alive to raise my brother and be around with me, thank you.

As for this comment:

ah well some pll DONT THINK THEIR IS A IMANGINARY DUDE UP IN THE SKY!!!!!!!! and if you do think thier is a god would (he/it /he)
want to to eat other things? are you 7 !!! ermefergengrwd you need to get you facts straght thier are millions to get protein then FLESH! you think "some god" made animals for little fuken you to eat! ...let me guess you a fashist eurocentric raseist right?


If you are going to give your opinion, give it more respectfully. Do not bash others religious beliefs, shout at people, or call them rude names. This is a place for friendly discussion, not hatred and harassment. If you need to use caps lock, exclamation points, or personal stabs at someone in a post, then that post does not belong here.

I said earlier that I feel PETA is too extreme. Perhaps you could better convince me that they are not if you did not react in the exact unkind way that makes me dislike them. People will listen to your opinions more if you respect their own better.
PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:59 am


Skeksis
shadowpunk360
Pink.Grapefruit
I'm a vegetarian myself, but I think being a human carnivore is absolutely natural. Nature is nature.



burning_eyes your kiding right ....

1 humans cant kill animals with out help

2 look at our intestans and a cat our are 7to8 times longer than our body whal a cats only 2 to 3 times longer ...the pont being if you eat meat it rots in you be for it comes out

3 and teeth ...do i even have to exp;ane this to you?

for many other facts read a healthe vegitarian by sri swami sachidananda

1. They most certainly can. Humans are quite capable of catching small game and quite capable of killing it with their hands. In a group they can take down larger game by using team work and tools- we evolved using tools you know so don't try to say that using tools is unatural. Using tools is natural for a human and we are not the only species that does so. Should non human primates stop eating termites because they use sticks to get them out of their nests? Of course not.

2. Cats are obligate carnivores. Humans are omnivores. Not carnivores or herbivores.
Fact is, that if humans weren't meant to eat meat we wouldn't be able to digest it in the first place. We would not derive nutrition from it just as a ferret doesn't derive nutrition from plants and a rabbit doesn't get nutrition from flesh.
However, our digestive systems do share similarities with oth omnivorous species such as pigs and we are capable of processing bothe plant and animal proteins. That speaks for itself IMO.

3. Our teeth seem to be quite good at biting through meat- I've certainly never struggled. Not all animals that eat flesh have evolved long canine teeth. Rats have meat in their diet and they have the typical rodent teeth. Pigs don't have canines and they eat meat.


thats my pount you wont die if you eat flesh but it ROTS in side of you thats y u smell like rotten flesh

shadowpunk360


shadowpunk360

PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 12:03 pm


Lady Nekochan
shadowpunk360
Pink.Grapefruit
I'm a vegetarian myself, but I think being a human carnivore is absolutely natural. Nature is nature.



burning_eyes your kiding right ....

1 humans cant kill animals with out help

2 look at our intestans and a cat our are 7to8 times longer than our body whal a cats only 2 to 3 times longer ...the pont being if you eat meat it rots in you be for it comes out

3 and teeth ...do i even have to exp;ane this to you?

for many other facts read a healthe vegitarian by sri swami sachidananda
Know, what? Just go back and read Skeksis's post. That basically says everything I was going to.

Cats are carnivores who get very ill if too much of anything else is brought into their diet. Humans are omnivores, like chimpanzees. We have flat teeth for grinding, but still have small canines for biting and tearing. Herbivores like horses do not have canines at all, only flat teeth and incisors. If they do get sharp teeth, they are "wolf toothed." These teeth only grow in the back of the jaw, like a human's wisdom tooth, and they are not useful and often very uncomfortable for the horse. Therefore, since our canines and grinding teeth are natural, and our stomachs and intestines can process meat, we are omnivores. Herbivores have intestinal tracts much proportionately longer than ours.

And as for the getting sick. No. Just no. I was born with medical problems about which I will not bother to explain, and such things lead to a lower immune system. Eating better has helped me an infinite amount. I get sick when I don't eat normally, not when I do. I eat only low-fat meats and drink only skim milk. And as for milk.... I've grown up drinking plenty of it, and i must say that I have some of the strongest bones I've seen. There are plenty of times they should have broken when they didn't.


Besides, even if we were to entirely stop breeding holstein cows now, we would still have to milk those remaining. They are bred to a point where they need milked, even if they are nursing their calf, or their udders will explode. Several milking goats are the same way.

And you completely ignored comments I made about animal's violence toward each other and my mom needing to eat meat for medical health reasons. I do very much want her alive to raise my brother and be around with me, thank you.

As for this comment:

ah well some pll DONT THINK THEIR IS A IMANGINARY DUDE UP IN THE SKY!!!!!!!! and if you do think thier is a god would (he/it /he)
want to to eat other things? are you 7 !!! ermefergengrwd you need to get you facts straght thier are millions to get protein then FLESH! you think "some god" made animals for little fuken you to eat! ...let me guess you a fashist eurocentric raseist right?


If you are going to give your opinion, give it more respectfully. Do not bash others religious beliefs, shout at people, or call them rude names. This is a place for friendly discussion, not hatred and harassment. If you need to use caps lock, exclamation points, or personal stabs at someone in a post, then that post does not belong here.

I said earlier that I feel PETA is too extreme. Perhaps you could better convince me that they are not if you did not react in the exact unkind way that makes me dislike them. People will listen to your opinions more if you respect their own better.


milk has been proven to be very bad for you many times and not just by twisted RAdiCAlZ twisted im sure you willl find some thing here : www.goveg.com
PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:09 am


shadowpunk360
Skeksis
shadowpunk360
Pink.Grapefruit
I'm a vegetarian myself, but I think being a human carnivore is absolutely natural. Nature is nature.



burning_eyes your kiding right ....

1 humans cant kill animals with out help

2 look at our intestans and a cat our are 7to8 times longer than our body whal a cats only 2 to 3 times longer ...the pont being if you eat meat it rots in you be for it comes out

3 and teeth ...do i even have to exp;ane this to you?

for many other facts read a healthe vegitarian by sri swami sachidananda

1. They most certainly can. Humans are quite capable of catching small game and quite capable of killing it with their hands. In a group they can take down larger game by using team work and tools- we evolved using tools you know so don't try to say that using tools is unatural. Using tools is natural for a human and we are not the only species that does so. Should non human primates stop eating termites because they use sticks to get them out of their nests? Of course not.

2. Cats are obligate carnivores. Humans are omnivores. Not carnivores or herbivores.
Fact is, that if humans weren't meant to eat meat we wouldn't be able to digest it in the first place. We would not derive nutrition from it just as a ferret doesn't derive nutrition from plants and a rabbit doesn't get nutrition from flesh.
However, our digestive systems do share similarities with oth omnivorous species such as pigs and we are capable of processing bothe plant and animal proteins. That speaks for itself IMO.

3. Our teeth seem to be quite good at biting through meat- I've certainly never struggled. Not all animals that eat flesh have evolved long canine teeth. Rats have meat in their diet and they have the typical rodent teeth. Pigs don't have canines and they eat meat.


thats my pount you wont die if you eat flesh but it ROTS in side of you thats y u smell like rotten flesh


Resorting to personal attacks; very convincing.
On a normal day I smell of paint, art supplies and slightly of ferret [because I love to hug my babies].

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 8:21 am


This topic has been LOCKED. Please look/reply to the several other vegetarian threads in the extended discussion forum. Repeat topics are bad. Very bad.

Also, this is getting too out of hand with the bashing and name calling. Please learn how to formulate proper debates. Most of you are doing a good job. But to anyone who resorts to personal attacks and bashing, please understand that no one will listen to you if you do that, and it only makes yourself look worse and not very intelligent if you can't come back with something that sounds a little better than saying someone smells bad. If you have any problems with this, feel free to PM my mule account, Jacques Strappe. (My PMs are set to friends only.)
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