“Ahh, how's about that. I guess since women absolutely cannot live without sex, then they should take it out on the innocent party when they get pregnant.”
It is possible to live without sex.
But sexual pleasure is a basic human right and is on the hierarchy of NEEDS for medical patients.
Unless that sexual pleasure infringes on your rights, you have no right to inhibit the sexuality of another human being.
“I guess that goes for rape and incest, too. There's already been one victim, might as well make two. Two wrongs DO make a right... right?”
The child can’t be a victim if it’s not born. Abortion will spare the child and mother what could be more emotional trauma, pain, humiliation, shame, poverty and further intrusion of bodily domain.
Abortion will only harm the mother if it is not truly her choice to abort.
“And since birth defects warrant death, I vote we round up all the mentally challanged or crippled people in the coutry and gas them to death. They're just sucking up our recourses, anyway.”
They are invading no-ones bodily domain and are, in many cases, capable of living on their own.
They are also born citizens protected under the 14th amendment.
“Funny how you utterly fail to grasp sarcasm (I can help you by pointing out other areas I'm being sarcastic, if you like). I never said I was right or wrong to break his fingers, only that if abortionists want "fairness", then it was absolutely right for me to.”
Abortionists want only to do their jobs, and various other wants that all humans share.
“And say, funny how screaming for help, running away, seeing the the authorities, etc. isn't a valid method to avoid rape. Or are they? I guess rape is no longer a valid reason to abort at all, since everyone has so much control over their surroundings!And I broke his fingers because he tackled me and I rolled over on his hand. I had a lot of choice in that matter, after all. Again, funny how victims are the ones who get punished. ”
Did I saw that it was wrong to use force when al of these other methods failed? No.
It IS odd that the victims of rape are punished. After all, they are often subjected to humiliating tests, arduous court cases, and brutal attacks to their identity and integrity. Why add forced incubation and childbirth to this list?
“Thank you. I am now completely justified to go to the nearest hospital and pull the plug on every person in a coma and/or with a debilitating disease. They're not people. Actually, I think I might enjoy stabbing them to death more.”
How very pro-life of you. Nice to see someone who values “the sanctity of life” SO much that it’s a joke to them.
And again, these people are doing you no harm. You seem to have trouble distinguishing between things that involve you and things that don’t.
“Funny how this one opinion that fetii are believed to be in a coma-like state doesn't explain why every birth I've been aroud, the child knew its mother's AND father's voice.”
First of all: I attached an article about this. The opinion was that of a scientist after doing actual research. The opinion is at least an educated one.
Your opinion was based on casual observations of live births. How many births have you seen in which this was the case? How do you know the infant was responding to the mother and father’s voices? Is it possible that it could have responded differently on instinct, because the mother and father were talking to it while the nurses and doctors were treating it like any other birth they’ve seen?
Your anecdote is hardly as valid as an actual scientific study.
“Or why when people come out of comas, they often remember what was going on while they were in said coma and can recall news events and visits.”
1. These people were in comas, but were not inside of a womb. It’s possible that the latter state could affect hearing.
2. At what point does a fetus typically show reflexive responses to sound?
3. The adults in a coma were fully developed. The fetus was not.
“Also funny that partial birth abortion was outlawed as being inhumane because the babies screamed bloody murder as their heads were cracked open and their brains sucked out before birth. Not like they could possibly be screaming because they were in pain. Screaming is just something everyone does for fun from birth, right?”
“Partial birth abortion” is not a scientific term. It is, apparently, often used to make late abortions seem worse than they are by pro-life activists. The actual medical term is intact dilation and extraction.
This story sounds very sensationalized and fake. Please submit evidence that proves it’s not made up. Here, just to be fair, I’ll present you with some information on so-called partial-birth abortion:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intact_dilation_and_extraction (This appears to be an unbiased source, despite the potential for inaccuracy.)
http://www.plannedparenthood.org/birth-control-pregnancy/abortion.htm (Info. on later abortions.)
“Absolutely, because there are SO many more people who become the next Hitler than people who make medical or scientific advancements. Forget the fact that technology increases exponentially, that's just luck.”
My saying that they could become the next Hitler is just as futile, absurd, speculative and pointless as you saying they could find a cure for cancer.
That’s the point I was making.
“Well, that's strange, because children's rights override parental rights, anyway.”
You’ve made this claim a lot, and I’ve been ignoring it a lot. Know why? Because the burden of proof --or AT LEAST and explanation on why you hold this opinion—is on you.
I’m waiting. Legal proof, philosophical proof…. Come on. Got anything? This is a key argument. You do realize that failure to prove this results in failure of your argument against bodily domain? And really, that’s all the matters in this debate.
Oh, and another thing to ponder: A fetus isn’t considered a child yet by many people. So to them, they aren’t harming a child at all. They are merely stopping the development of a living clump of human cells. There are no mothers and no children when the fetus is aborted.
“"But those women made their CHOICES to have their children."
Its a shame your mother did, too.”
Are you implying that you would have forced my mother to have an abortion if you could prevent my birth?!
Not helping your side. You’ve lost the illusion of benevolence enough.
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