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Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 10:34 pm
i feel more comforted now. sorry i used to do alot of story righting and joint storys, also a fabricated series of RP.
so the whole superiorly powerful characters just dulls my insight alot.
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Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 5:13 am
[- DB -] Demon_spawn_666 sedit (or amy one else with a sword) would deflect the bullets until he runs out then kill him. ... Let's focus on this idea for a moment. Deflecting bullets, hmm, Can anyone really deflect a bullet with a sword? Perhaps it is possible, but highly unlikely of it happening. First you have to have the ability to calculate the exact trajectory of the bullet being fired. Then comes the fun task of being able to move the very instant before the person pulls the trigger all the way back. Why in that very instant? If they can see you moving to block that spot they only have to twist their hand slightly to change the trajectory of their round. This is not something that is easy to do in less time then it take to take a breath of air. Few have those sorts of reflexes and calculative abilities. Secondly, can the sword take the force of a blow from a bullet? Metal is strong yes, but enough force applied to the side of something like a sword's blade, snaps that metal like a twig. Think of it like a balloon vs. a pin. The rubber of a balloon is strong enough to take he force of metal hitting it. Take your hand a smack a balloon as hard as you can, chances are, you didn't break it. Now take a pin and simply poke a balloon. Pop there goes the balloon. It was the small amount of force, focused on a single point. This principle applied to the blade of a sword is the same, the blade may be strong enough to take a lot of force, but the near pinpoint damage from a single round would likely snap it. I know you may have seen those shows that show a bullet being cut in two by a katana. It is true that is can cut a bullet. Yet the same balloon popping principle I have previously described applies. In that example the bullet is the balloon, while the fine edge of the sword is the pin. The sword will split the bullet in half. But the bullet still continues past the blade, but now with twice the damage, at least, then it would have from a single round. Plus the blade of the sword now has hair-line fractures, and will likely not take much more before breaking. Now we can get into the more specific area of the comic itself. Sage doesn't have one gun, he has two. He can fire them simultaneously. Try deflecting two bullets flying at the same exact time towards different areas of the body. Even if you are fast enough to block one, you have a second one that, chances are, will hit. Couple that though with the fact that each gun has 6 rounds, and Sage is a sharpshooter. Something tells me he will hit more often then not. Even if someone did manage to deflect all 12 rounds, they would have to close the gap between him and themselves before Sage could reload. Now please also consider the closer someone gets to him, the wider the target will be for him (relativity), it would be easier for him to pull off a few shots that can't be deflected so easily. I think Sage would have pretty good chance of, perhaps not winning, but doing some major damage to others. Chew on those a while. watch ff vii advent children cloud does it at least 20 times. and it is a one in a billion chance that sage fires them at the exact same time thusly if he swings it across at the right time theoreticaly he should be able to block them. also don't forget that were talking about a comic here, most of the sword using characters have at least some magical ablilities that must be factored into this.
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Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 5:25 am
AnotsuWolf the outcome between all the cast vs one another it comes down to 3 characters. Sedit (of course) Damion Tuma'el for one they are the most adept fighters magic/swords/bullets dont even bother it wouldnt matter if you're a Dragon, elder Vampyre, and a Arch Demon. none of those others stand a chance and i see these 3 as even matches for each other. just think about it. all it takes is a believable concept such as: Dragons=magically resistent, Sedit has like 200 years experience in combat, main character of the story(get bonus points for that)and he stormed an entire castle filled with undead and other demons without failing to even break a sweat. Damion= well you saw what he did to everyone in that one comic... Tuma'el=left a crater in the ice demon lair....and still had time to be in another place as well so his magical capabilites are inexhaustable it seems. points proven. astomos would be hiding under his bed crying to his mommy all through the fight giving him a chance of surviving, albeit a small chance, but a chance none the less....
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Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 5:38 am
Demon_spawn_666 watch ff vii advent children cloud does it at least 20 times. and it is a one in a billion chance that sage fires them at the exact same time thusly if he swings it across at the right time theoreticaly he should be able to block them. also don't forget that were talking about a comic here, most of the sword using characters have at least some magical ablilities that must be factored into this. Ah, but remember you are talking about MY comic here, and not just any old comic. True physics plays a major role in what goes on. With that factor in mind, I'd like to point out, I'm not partial to a character, if I feel it is their time to die, they are dead. There is no hero. No Cloud Strife to save the day every time. One in a billion? perhaps, if you factor in nanoseconds of time. It is very easy to pull the trigger on two guns at virtually the exact same moment.
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Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 4:58 pm
[- DB -] Demon_spawn_666 sedit (or amy one else with a sword) would deflect the bullets until he runs out then kill him. ... Let's focus on this idea for a moment. Deflecting bullets, hmm, Can anyone really deflect a bullet with a sword? Perhaps it is possible, but highly unlikely of it happening. First you have to have the ability to calculate the exact trajectory of the bullet being fired. Then comes the fun task of being able to move the very instant before the person pulls the trigger all the way back. Why in that very instant? If they can see you moving to block that spot they only have to twist their hand slightly to change the trajectory of their round. This is not something that is easy to do in less time then it take to take a breath of air. Few have those sorts of reflexes and calculative abilities. Secondly, can the sword take the force of a blow from a bullet? Metal is strong yes, but enough force applied to the side of something like a sword's blade, snaps that metal like a twig. Think of it like a balloon vs. a pin. The rubber of a balloon is strong enough to take he force of metal hitting it. Take your hand a smack a balloon as hard as you can, chances are, you didn't break it. Now take a pin and simply poke a balloon. Pop there goes the balloon. It was the small amount of force, focused on a single point. This principle applied to the blade of a sword is the same, the blade may be strong enough to take a lot of force, but the near pinpoint damage from a single round would likely snap it. I know you may have seen those shows that show a bullet being cut in two by a katana. It is true that is can cut a bullet. Yet the same balloon popping principle I have previously described applies. In that example the bullet is the balloon, while the fine edge of the sword is the pin. The sword will split the bullet in half. But the bullet still continues past the blade, but now with twice the damage, at least, then it would have from a single round. Plus the blade of the sword now has hair-line fractures, and will likely not take much more before breaking. Now we can get into the more specific area of the comic itself. Sage doesn't have one gun, he has two. He can fire them simultaneously. Try deflecting two bullets flying at the same exact time towards different areas of the body. Even if you are fast enough to block one, you have a second one that, chances are, will hit. Couple that though with the fact that each gun has 6 rounds, and Sage is a sharpshooter. Something tells me he will hit more often then not. Even if someone did manage to deflect all 12 rounds, they would have to close the gap between him and themselves before Sage could reload. Now please also consider the closer someone gets to him, the wider the target will be for him (relativity), it would be easier for him to pull off a few shots that can't be deflected so easily. I think Sage would have pretty good chance of, perhaps not winning, but doing some major damage to others. Chew on those a while. If you are able to deflect it, why not just dodge it?
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Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 10:41 pm
[A]lpha [O]mega If you are able to deflect it, why not just dodge it? because the whole argument was about deflecting the bullets, not dodging them.
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Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 1:13 am
~Atsui blinks.~
Truthfully.
DB would win
xD
shhh I know it's 'characters' but the actual characters say his name, so why can't DB be a character to? He is in there.
>_>'
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Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 6:36 pm
Damion would be like "All j00r base belong to us!" And then he'd do some odd thing where everyones head just splits in two xd
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 10:58 am
Soren Amalthea Delthalus hands down. People underestimate necromancers all the time and we havn't even seen his own powers yet. All we've seen is how he could take down a whole castle and everyone inside it just by figuring out what to do, simple as that. ....Plus you can never trust the quiet ones. too true.. the quiet ones always have SOME kind of card up thier sleeve.. maybe we'll see later on
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 4:51 pm
Chibi Punk Angel Gatz TdaMax Raid Aurora Gatz TdaMax confused What's the old saying again..? "Everytime you drag real time physics into a discussion about anime, God kills a catgirl." Fine, chances are that the cat-girl is in a hentai.--Which is exactly why you shouldn't contribute to their deaths! gonk What'll I do if my favorite source of echii goodness dies off?! crying ( xd ) -puts on a pair of cat ears and tail- never fear! chibi is here! -trips on her fake tail and tumbles down the stairs- eek ... sweatdrop Aren't you supposed to land on you feet or something? xd *points to his avi* Gee, look what Gatz dressed up as for Halloween. blaugh [- DB -] Demon_spawn_666 sedit (or amy one else with a sword) would deflect the bullets until he runs out then kill him. ... Let's focus on this idea for a moment. Deflecting bullets, hmm, Can anyone really deflect a bullet with a sword? Perhaps it is possible, but highly unlikely of it happening. First you have to have the ability to calculate the exact trajectory of the bullet being fired. Then comes the fun task of being able to move the very instant before the person pulls the trigger all the way back. Why in that very instant? If they can see you moving to block that spot they only have to twist their hand slightly to change the trajectory of their round. This is not something that is easy to do in less time then it take to take a breath of air. Few have those sorts of reflexes and calculative abilities. Secondly, can the sword take the force of a blow from a bullet? Metal is strong yes, but enough force applied to the side of something like a sword's blade, snaps that metal like a twig. Think of it like a balloon vs. a pin. The rubber of a balloon is strong enough to take he force of metal hitting it. Take your hand a smack a balloon as hard as you can, chances are, you didn't break it. Now take a pin and simply poke a balloon. Pop there goes the balloon. It was the small amount of force, focused on a single point. This principle applied to the blade of a sword is the same, the blade may be strong enough to take a lot of force, but the near pinpoint damage from a single round would likely snap it. I know you may have seen those shows that show a bullet being cut in two by a katana. It is true that is can cut a bullet. Yet the same balloon popping principle I have previously described applies. In that example the bullet is the balloon, while the fine edge of the sword is the pin. The sword will split the bullet in half. But the bullet still continues past the blade, but now with twice the damage, at least, then it would have from a single round. Plus the blade of the sword now has hair-line fractures, and will likely not take much more before breaking. Now we can get into the more specific area of the comic itself. Sage doesn't have one gun, he has two. He can fire them simultaneously. Try deflecting two bullets flying at the same exact time towards different areas of the body. Even if you are fast enough to block one, you have a second one that, chances are, will hit. Couple that though with the fact that each gun has 6 rounds, and Sage is a sharpshooter. Something tells me he will hit more often then not. Even if someone did manage to deflect all 12 rounds, they would have to close the gap between him and themselves before Sage could reload. Now please also consider the closer someone gets to him, the wider the target will be for him (relativity), it would be easier for him to pull off a few shots that can't be deflected so easily. I think Sage would have pretty good chance of, perhaps not winning, but doing some major damage to others. Chew on those a while. Hmm, I suppose this is a good illustration of DB's point... xd
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 4:57 pm
Chibi Punk Angel Soren Amalthea Delthalus hands down. People underestimate necromancers all the time and we havn't even seen his own powers yet. All we've seen is how he could take down a whole castle and everyone inside it just by figuring out what to do, simple as that. ....Plus you can never trust the quiet ones. too true.. the quiet ones always have SOME kind of card up thier sleeve.. maybe we'll see later on The somewhat nutty ones tend to be underestimated too. Tuma'el, for example.
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 6:59 pm
Demon_spawn_666 [- DB -] Demon_spawn_666 sedit (or amy one else with a sword) would deflect the bullets until he runs out then kill him. ... Let's focus on this idea for a moment. Deflecting bullets, hmm, Can anyone really deflect a bullet with a sword? Perhaps it is possible, but highly unlikely of it happening. First you have to have the ability to calculate the exact trajectory of the bullet being fired. Then comes the fun task of being able to move the very instant before the person pulls the trigger all the way back. Why in that very instant? If they can see you moving to block that spot they only have to twist their hand slightly to change the trajectory of their round. This is not something that is easy to do in less time then it take to take a breath of air. Few have those sorts of reflexes and calculative abilities. Secondly, can the sword take the force of a blow from a bullet? Metal is strong yes, but enough force applied to the side of something like a sword's blade, snaps that metal like a twig. Think of it like a balloon vs. a pin. The rubber of a balloon is strong enough to take he force of metal hitting it. Take your hand a smack a balloon as hard as you can, chances are, you didn't break it. Now take a pin and simply poke a balloon. Pop there goes the balloon. It was the small amount of force, focused on a single point. This principle applied to the blade of a sword is the same, the blade may be strong enough to take a lot of force, but the near pinpoint damage from a single round would likely snap it. I know you may have seen those shows that show a bullet being cut in two by a katana. It is true that is can cut a bullet. Yet the same balloon popping principle I have previously described applies. In that example the bullet is the balloon, while the fine edge of the sword is the pin. The sword will split the bullet in half. But the bullet still continues past the blade, but now with twice the damage, at least, then it would have from a single round. Plus the blade of the sword now has hair-line fractures, and will likely not take much more before breaking. Now we can get into the more specific area of the comic itself. Sage doesn't have one gun, he has two. He can fire them simultaneously. Try deflecting two bullets flying at the same exact time towards different areas of the body. Even if you are fast enough to block one, you have a second one that, chances are, will hit. Couple that though with the fact that each gun has 6 rounds, and Sage is a sharpshooter. Something tells me he will hit more often then not. Even if someone did manage to deflect all 12 rounds, they would have to close the gap between him and themselves before Sage could reload. Now please also consider the closer someone gets to him, the wider the target will be for him (relativity), it would be easier for him to pull off a few shots that can't be deflected so easily. I think Sage would have pretty good chance of, perhaps not winning, but doing some major damage to others. Chew on those a while. watch ff vii advent children cloud does it at least 20 times. and it is a one in a billion chance that sage fires them at the exact same time thusly if he swings it across at the right time theoreticaly he should be able to block them. also don't forget that were talking about a comic here, most of the sword using characters have at least some magical ablilities that must be factored into this. Advent Children godmodes. You should check again. What they do defies the laws of physics.
Also, that movie wasn't that good. And the swords, as I've seen, don't have magical abilities. The users do.
Besides, Cloud's sword is too big to swing that fast. He would have to be a much larger person to even lift a blade of that size. Unless, of course, the whole thing was fantasy.
But DB is too cool for godmoding.
Physics FTW.
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