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 Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 5:08 am
I don't think teachers should discuss their opinions in class. They should plainlytell the students what the unquestionable facts are and let them make their mind up themselves. Try looking for clues here. They would never say anything about really wanting to destroy Israel, but you might be able to find something. I'm checking out the Almanar newspaper. If I find anything for you, I'll post again.
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Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 5:12 am
Tis Mutiny! Today in history class, there was a discussion on the war between Israel and Hizballah. Obviously, I was participating enthusiastically, and at one point I said that Hizballah shouldn't be negotiated with because it actively seeks the destruction of Israel. Then my teacher cut me off and started telling me, very condescendingly, that I'm just making huge sweeping generalizations, and that all Hizballah wants is a prisoner exchange. I tried to say something, but she continued on with her complete bullshit. It wasn't so much what she said to me that made me mad, but that she was an authority figure presenting her ridiculously biased views to a class that, mostly, knows very little about Hizballah. Basically, she was spreading misinformation. Aren't teachers supposed to keep their personal views out of the lesson plan? That, and the way she talked was as if I had said something like "all arabs are terrorists who need to die." WTF?! So basically, now I'm compiling some evidence, showing that Hizballah does indeed seek the descrution of the state of Israel -- and, if Nasrallah is any example, doing so very vocally. Does anyone have some good sources I can use? I would prefer international -- if it's an arab source or an interview, even better. Thank you so so much. heart And, to add to the discussion, has anyone ever had a teacher like this? your teacher is so stupid. does she evenreally know what hezbollah does. nasrallah declared a jihad on israel. hezbollah wants to appear "innocent" i mean they help shiites that are poor get things they need and they have helped in the past to rebuild homes. doesnt your teacher know they hide in neighborhoods where innocent civillians are. they do this to gain supporters and they know isreal dosent want to kill innocent civillians. they havent given back the kidnapped soldiers like they were suppose to unconditionally.
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Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 5:59 pm
Sounds like you go to a public school. Here's what you should do. Organize some water ballooners who also dislike this teacher aim them at him/her when he/she comes in the door and then (because people of the United States in general are ignorant of Jews and their customs) declare loudly happy wet teacher day in Hebrew! (I don't know how to say happy wet teacher day or I would have posted it.)
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Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 6:22 am
Tis Mutiny! Obviously, I was participating enthusiastically, and at one point I said that Hizballah shouldn't be negotiated with because it actively seeks the destruction of Israel. Then my teacher cut me off and started telling me, very condescendingly, that I'm just making huge sweeping generalizations, and that all Hizballah wants is a prisoner exchange. I tried to say something, but she continued on with her complete bullshit. You were making sweeping generalizations, and your teacher was correct to point this out. That you offer no specifics of the discussion, and that you were the one who apparently started politicizing the class' discussion, makes me doubt that you'd portray your teacher in a sincere light. You clearly intend to turn your class into a debate on the Arab-Israeli conflict, and are clearly biased toward one side of the conflict, but criticize your instructor for presenting viewpoints which contradict your own. Don't like being interrupted in a discussion, when someone has a point to make? Don't jump into discussions. Your teacher was perfectly in line, warning you about generalizations, given the obvious direction you were taking the discussion. Quote: they do this to gain supporters and they know isreal dosent want to kill innocent civillians. Israel may not target civilians, but they certainly don't care about killing them. The recent Israeli campaign in Lebanon, and Israel's unapologetic attitude toward what it did to Lebanon, is evidence of this. Over 80 percent of the total deaths resulting from the recent campaign were Lebanese civilians.
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Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 3:39 pm
Quote: Quote: they do this to gain supporters and they know isreal dosent want to kill innocent civillians. Israel may not target civilians, but they certainly don't care about killing them. The recent Israeli campaign in Lebanon, and Israel's unapologetic attitude toward what it did to Lebanon, is evidence of this. Over 80 percent of the total deaths resulting from the recent campaign were Lebanese civilians. Excuse me?? I assume you've spoken to a few soldiers from the IDF, hmm? I suppose you were actually there yourself too? Do you know what lengths the IDF went to in order to prevent civilian casualties? They put themselves in danger many times to save civilian lives, and many times it ended it up costing the soldiers their own! I know, from very close up. Israel does NOT want to kill civilians, and values life very highly! The IDF was called by it's name because it's the Israeli Defence Force, not the attack force. How can you blame Israel because the hizzbullah used their own people as human shields?? They use the exact tactics that they know will effect the most - because life comes before anything.
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Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 6:04 pm
i agree with nathan_ngl
hezbollah gains most of their supporters by hiding behind innocent civillians and blending in w/ the communities. they know if the people see it as innocent citizens getting hurt they will win that person over.
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Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 4:55 pm
nathan_ngl I assume you've spoken to a few soldiers from the IDF A couple, actually, but they're wholly irrelevant to what I'm addressing. nathan_ngl I suppose you were actually there yourself too? Not during the most recent conflict, no. Still wholly irrelevant, granted. nathan_ngl Israel does NOT want to kill civilians, I never said they want to kill civilians, said that they do not care if Arab civilians are killed as a result of their actions, even if Arab civilians are killed in extreme disproportion (as was the case resulting from Israel's most recent campaign in Lebanon). nathan_ngl and values life very highly! Let me make a chart for you, Nathan. It's the total death count (from all sides) of the most recent Israeli campaign in Lebanon, turned into a pie chart.  nathan_ngl The IDF was called by it's name because it's the Israeli Defence Force, not the attack force. It applied when Israel was founded, but is a blatant misnomer today. The campaign in Lebanon, the kidnappings/assassinations, Israel's nukes? These're not exercises in self-defense. Because an entity is called something by its government means nothing of its actual purpose. China is called a "Peoples' Republic," but that don't make the Chinese government people-ordained. nathan_ngl How can you blame Israel because the hizzbullah used their own people as human shields?? Were a police officer to shoot a hostage-taking criminal through the hostage's head, it would be unacceptable. Israel wanted to secure the return of two kidnapped soldiers, and killed over one thousand innocent Lebanese to do it. That's not mentioning the razing of Lebanon's infrastructure, and thousands now left displaced or homeless. I can blame Israel for the murder of those 1,200 innocent Lebanese in precisely the same manner I can blame a police officer who deliberately shoots a hostage through his brain. The atrocities/tactics of Hezb'allah or Hamas do not justify the atrocities/tactics of the State of Israel.
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 2:45 am
Angsty Shem Israel wanted to secure the return of two kidnapped soldiers, and killed over one thousand innocent Lebanese to do it. That's not mentioning the razing of Lebanon's infrastructure, and thousands now left displaced or homeless. I can blame Israel for the murder of those 1,200 innocent Lebanese in precisely the same manner I can blame a police officer who deliberately shoots a hostage through his brain. The atrocities/tactics of Hezb'allah or Hamas do not justify the atrocities/tactics of the State of Israel. What do you propose they do? Let them get away with it? By what you're saying, you probably have an alternative? I think that this war was fought foolishly, but not heartlessly. Our minister of defense is a complete moron, and I doubt he's even aware there was a war. Many soldiers were lost in combat only because the soldiers tried to minimize casualties, the soldiers don't want to kill anyone, and I believe that they really tried not to. This war was very difficult, and I think that if the soldiers had not cared about lives, the casualties would have been tenfold, if not more. Perhaps if the minister of defense had given it more time, we'd have had a safer plan. Perhaps not. I can only hope next time there is a war (which by the looks of it, probably are already in the makings), that it be done in a more effective and life-evaluating way (both of Lebanese civilians AND of Israeli soldiers). On a different rail, there is an additional problem that can't go unnoticed. Some of the civilians willingly put themselves in danger to protect the Hizzbullah (and as seen recently on the news, this is no small amount of people). So I ask you, what does a policeman do if a civilian runs and stands in front of the hostage taking criminal? Is the civilian still a hostage?
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Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 3:21 pm
I've had many teacher who have hated me because of my opinions and the fact that I bother them until they see it my way or acknowlege my opinion. You were right. Your teacher was wrong. End of story.
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