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 Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:10 am
Siren of Saturn Lazarus The Resurected [ Loor ] BTW! Being "gay" is unchristian like. Just like cursing, disobeying your parents, stealing, and drinking....ext. ok disobeying your parents and stealing i can understand but last i checked cursing and drinkign weren't technically sins so since you were wrong about two examples any chance you were wrong about the gay verdict as well? "thou shall not use the Lord's name in vein" smile Hope that helps. it also talks about drinking heaps in Proverbs. to be honest, it's more about getting drunk than drinking
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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:38 am
Lazarus The Resurected Angel of the End And @ Lazarus, I am also sorry for using stuff from the Bible in this, however, in respect and accordance to your faith, might I ask how it would matter one way or another? (that is one thing I ask people, just out of curiousity, if God doesn't exist... why do you get so angry every time someone brings him up? Or asks you just to not say that word in a vile way?) I am simply applying my logic friend, as you are using yours as well 3nodding My issue with the "word of God" is only when it is treated as proof for everything. so as a bisexual you can help me explain something. you are not truly homosexual but it makes a good middle ground. you never chose to be bi and you have chosen to deny this. if there was no attraction to men would you consider it natural for you to pursue relationships with women? Natural, yes. Right, not really. I've basically overcome this nature, simply because I believe it is not part of God's origional plan. Same how I am a vegetarian. And trust me, if I went with my natural urges, alot of people would of been dead by now (naturally, I have a very violent mind and certain, although not many, things can get me into that state of being rather quickly...) If we all followed our instincts, what would the world be? Chaos, or else we would all just be dead, there would be no common sense because we all would just do things because we "felt" like it. Some people are naturally attracted to little kids, this doesn't really make it right.... does it? In addition, this ability to choose to over-come nature is what makes people different from animals or even plants, that cannot do such things to this extent. However, I do see your points on this matter.
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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:18 pm
Angel of the End Lazarus The Resurected Angel of the End And @ Lazarus, I am also sorry for using stuff from the Bible in this, however, in respect and accordance to your faith, might I ask how it would matter one way or another? (that is one thing I ask people, just out of curiousity, if God doesn't exist... why do you get so angry every time someone brings him up? Or asks you just to not say that word in a vile way?) I am simply applying my logic friend, as you are using yours as well 3nodding My issue with the "word of God" is only when it is treated as proof for everything. so as a bisexual you can help me explain something. you are not truly homosexual but it makes a good middle ground. you never chose to be bi and you have chosen to deny this. if there was no attraction to men would you consider it natural for you to pursue relationships with women? Natural, yes. Right, not really. I've basically overcome this nature, simply because I believe it is not part of God's origional plan. Same how I am a vegetarian. And trust me, if I went with my natural urges, alot of people would of been dead by now (naturally, I have a very violent mind and certain, although not many, things can get me into that state of being rather quickly...) If we all followed our instincts, what would the world be? Chaos, or else we would all just be dead, there would be no common sense because we all would just do things because we "felt" like it. Some people are naturally attracted to little kids, this doesn't really make it right.... does it? In addition, this ability to choose to over-come nature is what makes people different from animals or even plants, that cannot do such things to this extent. However, I do see your points on this matter. right and wrong are perspective to you. you also have a concience so killing people wouldn't work for you much. on the other hand if we all obeyed our urges no one would care if you killed people anyway. the world wouldn't be as bad as that realy, the defecence of offspring is instictual, as is the herd mentality and love. monogamy's not.
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Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 10:33 am
broken_joker Siren of Saturn Lazarus The Resurected [ Loor ] BTW! Being "gay" is unchristian like. Just like cursing, disobeying your parents, stealing, and drinking....ext. ok disobeying your parents and stealing i can understand but last i checked cursing and drinkign weren't technically sins so since you were wrong about two examples any chance you were wrong about the gay verdict as well? "thou shall not use the Lord's name in vein" smile Hope that helps. it also talks about drinking heaps in Proverbs. to be honest, it's more about getting drunk than drinking thanks, that's what i meant smile Just used the wrong word.
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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 10:38 am
Siren of Saturn hate, and fear are both sins. Because they are not of God. And anythign that is not of God is a sin smile And you have extremists that say God hates non-believers, gays, pro-choicers, etc. And actually God did create sin. It seems people have forgotten this little verse: " I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things." KJV Isaiah 45:7 Basically what this verse says that God has created light. Now light can be inferred as many things, the sun, Jesus, humanity, etc. Darkness would be Satan and or sin. Peace would mean universal acceptance, living in harmony, etc. Evil would mean sin. "I the lord do all these things" Basically it means that as the Creator God has created the things humanity likes Angels, knowledge (Most of humanity like learning new things and using their brain. I'm on of those people), science (see the former), the Earth. God created the things we detest Sin, Satan, the Earth (saying the world would end, and not taking care of this planet and using up the resources that we have, etc. Shows that people don't like Gaia (Earth) ((Gaia or Gaea is a gaellic term for the Earth. That was how the druids and other earth-worshippers referred to Earth. They called it Mother Earth. The Earth-worshippers had the right idea. We have to worship (in a sense) and take care of the Earth. This is God's gift to us. We have to do the responisble thing and take care of it. Now the Bible like any piece of literature can be interpretated differently. No interpretation is right. No interpretation is wrong. We all have different opinions. Now I think that God created homosexuals. He created EVERYONE. He is the CREATOR. To say that he didn't is pretty well lame. If he isn't the creator and didn't create everything then what is he. I don't think homosexuality is wrong. But I'm bi (bisexuality and homosexuality are two different things. Bi means 2 homo means 1. Homosexuals like on sex. Bisexuals like 2 sexes. Not the same thing. Don't know what a word is then consult m-w.com)
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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:49 pm
-xXGodslayer_RaiXx- Siren of Saturn hate, and fear are both sins. Because they are not of God. And anythign that is not of God is a sin smile And you have extremists that say God hates non-believers, gays, pro-choicers, etc. And actually God did create sin. It seems people have forgotten this little verse: " I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things." KJV Isaiah 45:7 Basically what this verse says that God has created light. Now light can be inferred as many things, the sun, Jesus, humanity, etc. Darkness would be Satan and or sin. Peace would mean universal acceptance, living in harmony, etc. Evil would mean sin. "I the lord do all these things" Basically it means that as the Creator God has created the things humanity likes Angels, knowledge (Most of humanity like learning new things and using their brain. I'm on of those people), science (see the former), the Earth. God created the things we detest Sin, Satan, the Earth (saying the world would end, and not taking care of this planet and using up the resources that we have, etc. Shows that people don't like Gaia (Earth) ((Gaia or Gaea is a gaellic term for the Earth. That was how the druids and other earth-worshippers referred to Earth. They called it Mother Earth. The Earth-worshippers had the right idea. We have to worship (in a sense) and take care of the Earth. This is God's gift to us. We have to do the responisble thing and take care of it. Now the Bible like any piece of literature can be interpretated differently. No interpretation is right. No interpretation is wrong. We all have different opinions. Now I think that God created homosexuals. He created EVERYONE. He is the CREATOR. To say that he didn't is pretty well lame. If he isn't the creator and didn't create everything then what is he. I don't think homosexuality is wrong. But I'm bi (bisexuality and homosexuality are two different things. Bi means 2 homo means 1. Homosexuals like on sex. Bisexuals like 2 sexes. Not the same thing. Don't know what a word is then consult m-w.com) I know we disagree on some things..but i just wanted to give you a hug! *hug!* whee Thank you for responding how you did. It's...a lot nicer smile I would be happy to talk about anything you'd like more indepth in the PM that i sent you smile
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