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 Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 12:25 pm
Since pro-lifers have a good propaganda machine, we need an unpropaganda machine. Links to propaganda rebuttals should go here. If there's a list of known pro-life propaganda sites, put it here too, so we don't have to look through drivel to know it's propaganda, we can just take a look at the site link and know.
Stuff needed:
-Silent Scream rebuttal page
-Known pro-life propaganda sites/how-to on finding these out
-The link I saw that debunks the so-called aborted fetus pictures
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Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 1:58 pm
Uhm.
It doesn't really qualify as an official rebuttal for the "fetus" pictures, but I made what I think is a pretty good statement against them in my talking points blog.
http://gourami-kiss.blogspot.com/2006/08/aborshund-babees.html
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 2:52 pm
Let's see.
Planned Parenthood response to "The Silent Scream"
I've been searching for a long time for a real rebuttal to the "aborted fetus" picture chain letter, but I haven't had any luck finding one.
As to pro-life sites, there's the obvious ones, and ones like Focus on the Family. Besides that, one that really irritates me is AbortionFacts.Com because it's so not "facts."
If I'm unsure about a source, I always check the "About Us" or similar sections. That might tell you something. If it doesn't, my next step is just to Google the organization or a founder's/president's name and see if anything interesting pops up. But most importantly, SourceWatch is a really useful site to check sources.
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Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 12:23 pm
http://www.prochoice.com/ Do not let the name of this website deceive you, it is most definitely not advocating pro-choice. Check out the abortion "facts" section...it lists an increased risk of breast cancer and death as possible side affects of abortion. In the section labeled, "How much does abortion cost?" it says, "The ultimate price, your baby's life, your self esteem and maybe your life. The financial cost can be very little to a lot. Rarely discussed is the hidden costs after the fact." Pro-choice my a**. xp Here's another site of interest: http://abortionismurder.org/content/formercontent.htmThis particular page has an interview with a former abortion provider. Judging from some of her responses, I really would like to check her credentials. When asked what becomes of the fetus after the abortion, this nutjob responds with, "We put them down the garbage disposal. Some second and third trimester babies' muscle structure is so strong that the baby will not come apart, so they must be disposed of through trash receptacles." Uh-huh. Oh, and my favorite... Q. What is the governing force behind the abortion industry? A. Money. It is a very lucrative business. It is the largest unregulated industry in our nation. Most of the clinics are run in chains because it is so profitable. This particular exchange between the interviewer and the so-called "abortionist" reminds me of a video I once saw of a bunch of antis protesting outside of a PP. As a woman tried to enter, one of them yelled out, "If they are really trying to help you, they won't take your money!!!" Sooooo....accepting money in exchange for a service is evil then? Ya know, something tells me that the nurses and doctors who deliver babies are accepting a paycheck, but I seriously doubt any of the antis are going to chew them out for that. I would also like to point out that this website is listed in the PLG's pro-life info thread as a website of interest. I think that speaks volumes about the people we are dealing with. More to come later.
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Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 3:20 pm
I want to make a website, even just with freewebs or something, that counters every single words spoken by the shitface at abortionfacts.com. I'm not joking. They are so utterly full of crap that it makes me want to throw things, and I am usually a very nonviolent person. Shitface Will he or she come out alive and crying, or dead in pieces? For many women this is an agonizing decision. Truly her choice is between life and death — a live baby or a dead one. But, for many women, it doesn’t end with the abortion. It can impact the rest of her life. There can be physical complications. Perhaps more important, for many, is the emotional aftermath that can result. On the other hand, if she toughs it out and carries her baby to term, there can instead be good memories — her own child to love and cherish. Or, if she is in no position to parent her child, she can place her baby for adoption in a pair of loving arms of a couple unable to have a child of their own. Yes, because ALL women who would be forced in the end to keep their babies would be completely and totally happy and NOT care that the rest of their lives would be ruined because they had to drop out of school or get kicked out of their home or the like. And EVERY child put up for adoption is adopted to a "pair of loving arms." rolleyes Shitface The slavery analogy . . . In 1857 the U.S. Supreme Court decided the Dred Scott Decision. By a 7-2 vote it ruled that black people were not "legal persons," that they were the property of the slave owner, who was granted the basic constitutional right to own a slave. Abolitionists protested, to be met with this answer: "We understand you oppose slavery and find it morally offensive. That is your privilege. You don’t have to own a slave if you don’t want to. But, don’t impose your morality on the slave owner. He has the constitutionally protected right to choose to own a slave." Today the conflict is abortion, and the very same argument is used. In 1973 the U.S. Supreme Court, by a 7-2 decision, ruled that unborn humans were not "legal persons," that they were the property of the owner (the mother) who was given the basic constitutional right to choose to kill her unborn offspring. Pro-lifers have protested, to be met with the same answer . . . "We understand that you oppose abortion and find it morally offensive. That is your privilege. You don’t have to have an abortion if you don’t want to. But don’t impose your morality on the owner, the mother, for she has the constitutional right to choose to kill, if she wishes." HELLO AGAIN. WELCOME TO REALITY. Slaves were not a physical part of their owners, and could live outside of their owner's own life. FETII CAN NOT DO THAT. Shitface But what about coat hanger abortions? Your authors have lectured nationwide on abortion on an average of one city a week for almost three decades. We frequently ask the audience to provide documented proof of a self-induced coat hanger abortion. In all this time no one has given us a single case. It may well be — there never were any coat hanger abortions. Once again, welcome to reality. Of course there is no documented proof of coathanger abortions, stupid--there would be no way to record them. I doubt that anyone's going to put "death by coathanger" on a death certificate. It would make them sound stupid. And besides, how would a doctor know? Stories and rumours about coathanger abortions didn't come from nowhere, durr. Shitface Only one and one-half to two taxpayers to support every retired person? That’s an impossible situation! What will happen? Euthanasia! Yes, that will be the answer. Today’s "Every Child a Wanted Child" will become tomorrow’s "Every Grandparent a Wanted Grandparent." YES! Let's kill ALL the old people! They need to die! rolleyes Old people have the option of saying "I want to live" or not, and are not living inside of anybody else. UGH. >.> -fumes- crying WHY ARE PEOPLE SO STUPID?!
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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 10:32 am
Razornova Shitface Only one and one-half to two taxpayers to support every retired person? That’s an impossible situation! What will happen? Euthanasia! Yes, that will be the answer. Today’s "Every Child a Wanted Child" will become tomorrow’s "Every Grandparent a Wanted Grandparent." YES! Let's kill ALL the old people! They need to die! rolleyes Old people have the option of saying "I want to live" or not, and are not living inside of anybody else. UGH. >.> -fumes- crying WHY ARE PEOPLE SO STUPID?! Not to mention the justifications for euthanasia would be completely different from the justifications for abortion, so this argument is really itrrelevant.
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Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 3:05 pm
Prochoice.com and abortionfacts.com are, unfortunately, always the first things to come up on google when I try to look up unbiased, true, and reliable information.
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Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 10:40 am
Pandora: *updating link list thread* Your PP link isn't working. Didn't use PP's search engine, did you? It messes the links up.
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Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 8:20 pm
sybex Shark Pandora: *updating link list thread* Your PP link isn't working. Didn't use PP's search engine, did you? It messes the links up. Oh, no, that must be since they've changed the set-up. Here is the working link.
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