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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 11:33 am


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You should not EVER drive anyone to the hospital if it is an emergency where they stop breathing/are bleeding profusely/etc. Any EMT you know...and I know a few will tell you that. You should call 911, attempt to perform CPR (generally with instruction of the operator), and await medical rescue. You have no sirens, and moving them while they are not breathing simply so they can be pronounced dead is equally as stupid. So moot point.

And emergencies where the child isn't on the brink of dying, but does need medical attention fairly quickly?

Nopenname
You are being absurd and reactionary.

Saying that a caregiver should remain in a clear state of mind while looking after young children is absurd?

Nopenname
I drank while pregnant with Bella. Because I didn't know that I was pregnant. I got BOMBED. ONCE. Before I was even pregnant to show on a pregnancy test. My midwife said: don't worry IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL because 1. it was early in development before brain development and nervous system development and 2. FEA - Fetal alchohol system has only been shown to develop in children who's mother's drink over long periods of time at a high rate of intake.

Not necessarily. Getting drunk even once CAN have a disastrous effect. It doesn't mean it will on everyone, or even frequently. But it can. You do not know how much your fetus can withstand. So why bother taking chances?

I am not saying that if you take a single drop at all you are a horrible monster and should be shot. Nothing even close to that. I am saying "Why take chances?"

The benefits of drinking alcohol are very minimal. The "glass of wine a day" stuff is rather controversial. There have been quite a few studies to show that yes, a glass of wine a day has X benefit, but it's also bad in Y way and that it's much healthier to get those same benefits through other means.

So the benefits are minimal and controversial, but the possible bad effects can be pretty extreme.

PERSONALLY, I would rather just not bother taking the risks. If I am having swelling and discomfort, I would rather do something to relieve that that doesn't have nasty associated side effects.

I guess it's a personal choice. I would rather make sure that, if there is an emergency, I am in a clear state of mind - especially if my child is depending on me. I would rather not take risks with luxuries such as alcohol - things that are not in any way NEEDED.
PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 2:13 pm


In ANY medical emergency, you need to call 911. Chances are, they'll send an ambulance. When I got shocked by a household outlet while holding my 2 month old, he screamed and then went silent, which scared the crap out of me, so I called 911. Even though he wasn't "on the brink of dying" they still sent a firetruck and ambulance. We have one car. Couldn't have driven even if I wanted to because my husband was at work. Hence the wonder of ambulances.
They also suggest in emergency situations NOT to drive as if you're scared shitless, you're going to drive drive an idiot.

Also, did you note that I said there should always be at least one completely sober adult in the house? Why do you think that is? For emergencies, obviously. Also, if the baby wakes up unexpectedly, you've got someone responsible to go BOTTLE FEED the baby the pre-pumped, non-alcoholic milk.

There, all your problems wrapped up easily by making sure not everyone is drinking. Call it your DD.

We all KNOW that alcohol is bad for kids, whether it be a drop or a bottle. No one is suggesting anything to the contrary. I think we've covered enough ground to show that if you take precautions and are responsible, there is no reason that a nursing mom can't have a drink now and then, as long as you follow four rules:

1. Have one completely sober, responsible adult in the house.
2. Have pre-pumped milk in case the baby wakes up unexpectedly.
3. Don't drink when your child is awake, and make sure the sober person is the only one holding the child.
4. Don't get DRUNK.

Or...

Get a babysitter!

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 8:50 pm


This is getting off topic and rather sensationalist. There's no reason to try and force others to your personal choices, Kuku. If you're going to make claims like that, back them up and cite sources. No one is arguing that directly giving alcohol to an infant--like rubbing it on the gums--or that drinking while pregnant are good or acceptable.

And with just about ANYTHING in life, you could argue a what-if that makes it a bad thing and you just shouldn't do it.


The LLL and AAP say having an occasional drink are FINE

And there you go. It goes into a fair amount of detail concerning amount of alcohol, how long it takes to get out of your system, and possible side effects to the baby--including the age of baby in consideration. Pretty much everything is covered there. Moderation with proper preparation is just fine. =)
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