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Loki - King of Mischief

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 11:09 am


~_The Emo Slayer_~
In all actuality, the "christmas" tree is actually a yule tree. Christmas does coincide with a pagan holiday. It was purposely done that way so that christianity might seem more appealing to pagans....but that was many years ago. I don't exactly remember the year....whenever christmas was made into a holiday. Also, I doubt any christians are saying merry christmas to purposely tick people off.


@ sonnyblood -- does no one read what i say?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 11:14 am


Molotov Gypsy

Sorry I'm so grumpy. I'm not trying to start an argument. I've been struggling with this a lot lately [it's one reason why I no longer profess myself a Christian] and I want so much to bring the passion that I see in many Christians to a better outlet.


I've learned...perhaps the hard way...that just because everything is falling to pieces around you doesn't mean you have to give up. Just remember that Job didn't give up, and he lost literally everything and everyone.

Loki - King of Mischief


Pepperann Ashby
Crew

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 11:52 pm


Molotov Gypsy
Quote:
Billy Graham''s daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane Clayson asked her "How could God let something like this Happen?" (regarding Katrina)

Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response. She said, "I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are, but for years we''ve been telling God to get out of our schools, to get out of our government and to get out of our lives.

And being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out. How can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection if we demand He leave us alone?"

Ooh, I really don't like this chick.
Consider: In the continent of Africa alone, there are 200,000 child soldiers. Less than 1 in 10 Africans in need of treatment for AIDS received it by end of 2005. 19,000 African children die daily from easily curable diseases.
Watch the movie Blood Diamond.
Ponder. Why are we worrying so bloody much about laws and regulations and legalism when all of this is happening around the world? What are we doing about any of it?
I understand that helping people within our own country is important. But why aren't we helping the needy [I've worked with city relief organizations, there are plenty of them in our own country] instead of alienating every non-Christian out there by being legalistic and preachy?
Ugh.
It drives me crazy.

Sorry I'm so grumpy. I'm not trying to start an argument. I've been struggling with this a lot lately [it's one reason why I no longer profess myself a Christian] and I want so much to bring the passion that I see in many Christians to a better outlet.



Hmm, well I didn't post this to offend anyone; I just wanted to use it to start a discussion about how folks get so upset over someone saying "Merry Christmas" or whatever. Truly if they used that passionate outrage to do something good these folks may realise there are much more important things to be worrying/outraged about.... such as starving children here in the States and overseas... and plenty of folks that could use compassion.

Jesus was our example of how to treat others, and His main focus was bringing love and compassion to thirsty souls. Why aren't more folks doing this instead of picking stupid fights? I don't have an answer for that myself as I, personally, don't think it makes sense either.

And as you yourself said... I hesitate to say I am a Christian. This is not because I am ashamed of Jesus, as that's not my point at all. Rather, I prefer to say I have a personal relationship with Jesus and that's it. I don't call myself by any name except "child of God"...that's all.
PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:28 am


pepperann18027
Molotov Gypsy
Quote:
Billy Graham''s daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane Clayson asked her "How could God let something like this Happen?" (regarding Katrina)

Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response. She said, "I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are, but for years we''ve been telling God to get out of our schools, to get out of our government and to get out of our lives.

And being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out. How can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection if we demand He leave us alone?"

Ooh, I really don't like this chick.
Consider: In the continent of Africa alone, there are 200,000 child soldiers. Less than 1 in 10 Africans in need of treatment for AIDS received it by end of 2005. 19,000 African children die daily from easily curable diseases.
Watch the movie Blood Diamond.
Ponder. Why are we worrying so bloody much about laws and regulations and legalism when all of this is happening around the world? What are we doing about any of it?
I understand that helping people within our own country is important. But why aren't we helping the needy [I've worked with city relief organizations, there are plenty of them in our own country] instead of alienating every non-Christian out there by being legalistic and preachy?
Ugh.
It drives me crazy.

Sorry I'm so grumpy. I'm not trying to start an argument. I've been struggling with this a lot lately [it's one reason why I no longer profess myself a Christian] and I want so much to bring the passion that I see in many Christians to a better outlet.



Hmm, well I didn't post this to offend anyone; I just wanted to use it to start a discussion about how folks get so upset over someone saying "Merry Christmas" or whatever. Truly if they used that passionate outrage to do something good these folks may realise there are much more important things to be worrying/outraged about.... such as starving children here in the States and overseas... and plenty of folks that could use compassion.

Jesus was our example of how to treat others, and His main focus was bringing love and compassion to thirsty souls. Why aren't more folks doing this instead of picking stupid fights? I don't have an answer for that myself as I, personally, don't think it makes sense either.

And as you yourself said... I hesitate to say I am a Christian. This is not because I am ashamed of Jesus, as that's not my point at all. Rather, I prefer to say I have a personal relationship with Jesus and that's it. I don't call myself by any name except "child of God"...that's all.

Yes, I understand that the purpose of the post was completely benign. I'm sorry if I over-reacted. n_n; I'm a little too passionate about things sometimes, haha.

Yes, I really like the idea of calling oneself a child of God instead of a Christian. People often would tell me that I was ashamed of the faith and that I should feel guilty about being "ashamed of Jesus." Psh. It's not Jesus I was ashamed of. It was the people who thought they were following him but were actually just being...well, horribly human.

I have kind of a chip on my shoulder when it comes to Christianity, and I really need to work through it. That's why it's really good for me to talk to people like you guys, who aren't psycho, even if I'm a bit psycho myself. =)

Molotov Gypsy

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