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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 2:11 pm
say the kids missing an arm, u have an abortion? That's messed up. Even if the kid is going to die you have the kid for the kid.
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 5:44 pm
If the child has a problem, stop and think. Isn't it probably the mom's fault? I mean, seriously. The mom might have had drank or done drugs or something while she had the child in her. It causes problems. The thing is, some people (*cough* my aunt) think that nothing bad will happen if they just do drugs once while they're expecting. Then, their kid has problems. Congrads, new mom. You caused those problems.
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 10:00 pm
pirategirl27 If the child has a problem, stop and think. Isn't it probably the mom's fault? I mean, seriously. The mom might have had drank or done drugs or something while she had the child in her. It causes problems. The thing is, some people (*cough* my aunt) think that nothing bad will happen if they just do drugs once while they're expecting. Then, their kid has problems. Congrads, new mom. You caused those problems. There's a fantastic new law that might come in that gives the fetus basic rights, http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/news/15005759.htm, there's the article, (I think).
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 8:23 am
those pro-abortion folks remind me of something... ya remember in roots when the white folks got all upset when a slave learned to read? they were worried that the slaves would be called people. huh.
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 2:07 pm
pirategirl27 If the child has a problem, stop and think. Isn't it probably the mom's fault? I mean, seriously. The mom might have had drank or done drugs or something while she had the child in her. It causes problems. The thing is, some people (*cough* my aunt) think that nothing bad will happen if they just do drugs once while they're expecting. Then, their kid has problems. Congrads, new mom. You caused those problems. yeah, but sometimes the baby can have complications naturally, without the aid of the mother. What'll happen then?
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:47 pm
EmO_RoCkEr_2010 pirategirl27 If the child has a problem, stop and think. Isn't it probably the mom's fault? I mean, seriously. The mom might have had drank or done drugs or something while she had the child in her. It causes problems. The thing is, some people (*cough* my aunt) think that nothing bad will happen if they just do drugs once while they're expecting. Then, their kid has problems. Congrads, new mom. You caused those problems. yeah, but sometimes the baby can have complications naturally, without the aid of the mother. What'll happen then? Here's my response, and people might hate me for it, but so be it. A handicapped child is worth no less than a "normal" one. It doesn't matter how the child ended up that way. The mother's fault or not (and I am nowhere NEAR ready to assert that most people are born disabled because of their mothers. A lot of factors contribute.), the situation is the same so when it comes to abortion, that particular point is moot. Where do you draw the line if you say, "Oh, it's okay to have an abortion if you don't want to give birth to a handicapped child?" It's okay if you don't want to give birth to a human of a certain gender? A certain color? What? Where does this line get put? I don't want to come out and say, "You are worth less to me because you're handicapped," to anyone. I wouldn't say it to my mother. I wouldn't say it to my brother. I'm not going to say it to that guy working down at the local hardware store. They are all worth the same to me as my fiance, my best friend, my sister, my teachers, the guy who waits tables at the local Chinese restaurant, etc. They are ALL people to me. Unborn humans are the same to me. I cannot in good conscience be pro-life if I start saying that some are better/worse than others. I cannot decide which ones will live and which will die. I cannot say, "The law should protect some of them!" I wouldn't want the law to protect only some women. I wouldn't want the law to protect only some men. So why should I want the law to protect only some children? I wouldn't, and cannot say I agree with the legal killing of humans based solely on their disabilities, no matter how young or old those humans are. I can understand it. I can certainly understand not wanting to have to raise a disabled child. It's freaking hard. I can also understand fearing for my child's safety in the world if I choose adoption, especially when my child is disabled and the system is cluttered. I find it very easy to understand coming to the conclusion that abortion is the most humane thing to do with a disabled child. Maybe it's because of the household I grew up in and all the people I met growing up, I don't know. But as much as I can understand it, I cannot agree with it and would never, ever say, "Let's make a law protecting everyone but the handicapped children. They're better off dead." No one is qualified to make that choice.
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:06 pm
Kate, you said that your post would make some of us hate ******** whoever would hate you for posting those amazing words.
As a matter of fact, my respect for you has gone up, like, a bazillion respect for what you wrote.
*hails* <3333
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Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 11:09 am
3nodding Nothin to add to what Ebby said.
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Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:35 pm
Ebony the Peacian Vampire Kate, you said that your post would make some of us hate ******** whoever would hate you for posting those amazing words.
As a matter of fact, my respect for you has gone up, like, a bazillion respect for what you wrote.
*hails* <3333 word up, G (at least i THINK that's an affirmative term)
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Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 2:45 pm
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Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 5:27 pm
I disagree with everyone. I hate you now, Kate. mad
I lie! I love you and your rant! <3
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Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 7:17 pm
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Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 9:14 pm
Lorysa I think it's never something good. You're taking a life, that's never 'just fine,' but if the person's life is in danger and the only way they can save themselves is to do it, then it should be their choice; either their life, or the baby's. That's my opinion, anyway. I completely agree. I think abortion is completely wrong. If you get pregnant and something is wrong with baby, you should have to care for the child because every child deserves to live. To me, abortion is murder. @ Jose- hey snugglebunnies (inside joke)
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Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 1:16 pm
I'm personally against abortion unless it's a life and death situation. If the mother is going to die then I can understand that or if the baby had no chance to survive or would be in horrible pain and has no cure I can understand that as well cause I won't want my child (if I ever have one) to suffer and be in pain for their whole life, I know I won't what to life like that. But I would want to know 100% first. But the thing is you don't always know and doctors have been wrong before so that be a hard choice to make.
Now if it's because you don't want it or cause of some birth defect yet they are still able to live a normal life (well normal as possible) then that's different. If they are going to live and not be in pain then they should be able to live (there is always adoption, If I want a kid later on I might adopt).
By the way, not all problems are the mothers fault, sometimes it is and sometimes things just happen that you can't control.
Like my aunt (she's not my real aunt but I called her that), lost her first child after falling down the stairs, it wasn't her fault.
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Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 2:16 pm
sachiko_sohma I'm personally against abortion unless it's a life and death situation. If the mother is going to die then I can understand that or if the baby had no chance to survive or would be in horrible pain and has no cure I can understand that as well cause I won't want my child (if I ever have one) to suffer and be in pain for their whole life, I know I won't what to life like that. But I would want to know 100% first. But the thing is you don't always know and doctors have been wrong before so that be a hard choice to make. Now if it's because you don't want it or cause of some birth defect yet they are still able to live a normal life (well normal as possible) then that's different. If they are going to live and not be in pain then they should be able to live (there is always adoption, If I want a kid later on I might adopt). By the way, not all problems are the mothers fault, sometimes it is and sometimes things just happen that you can't control. Like my aunt (she's not my real aunt but I called her that), lost her first child after falling down the stairs, it wasn't her fault. awwww, thats so sad, i feel bad for your aunt........she must have been heart-broken. I wouldn't be able to stand the fact that my child died before it was even born............
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