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 Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 11:55 pm
http://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15163071&page=1Yet another whine fest. Sad, really.
If you notice, the Liberals have views that are the opposite of what they are complaining about.
Pro-Abortion, yet against the death penalty. I mean, come ON. What the hell, and the topic creator even denied his hypocrisy when I talked to him on page two.
Every person has their reasoning for believing such things, but come on. Admit it that your view also sounds hypocritcal.
Yet another perfect example of the teenage leftist community:
"I am right. You are wrong."
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Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 4:10 pm
You can't expect much from those in the GD. There's a strong liberal bias, and anyone who isn't a liberal (or somewhere that isn't right-wing) is considered a complete fool.
I'd thought you would've known that by now...MR. WINTER! *Points*
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Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 5:25 pm
What I hate is when they defend abortion because "it's not a person yet." How freaking barbaric.
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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 3:48 am
Der_Freischuetz You can't expect much from those in the GD. There's a strong liberal bias, and anyone who isn't a liberal (or somewhere that isn't right-wing) is considered a complete fool. I'd thought you would've known that by now...MR. WINTER! *Points*
I needed to b***h. I mean, I have not met such a hypocrite in forever!
MY DISGUISE! scream How'd you know?
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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 5:00 am
I understand your pain...
when I first got here I went to the ED section, jumped into a discussion on communism( I know foolish me). The person was asking if it was evil or not... biggrin
Well most people took my examples apart and as I rebutted them, it finally came down to...well the USSR, Cuba, Cambodia, North Vietnam, none of these countries were really communists so anything they did could not be the fault of communism.
Meh, so now I resist the urge to point out the disconnect in the logic used by many people here, esp in ED
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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 2:00 pm
Miss Underwood I know.
I needed to b***h. I mean, I have not met such a hypocrite in forever!
MY DISGUISE! scream How'd you know? Your current profile stuff is pretty much the same as your previous one. Anyway, more on hypocrisy. In the comparison of abortion and the death penalty, it is far more hypocratic to support abortion yet be against the dealth penalty than it is to be pro-life and support the death penalty. In other words, you'd rather see an innocent being killed because it's considered an inconvenience, without due process of law, but you'd prefer it if a murderer wasn't killed because it costs too much. Yes, it's very barbaric to say that a fetus isn't human yet. Some people even go so far as to say that the fetus isn't even human, that it's more comparable to a parasite or cancer. The user My Conscience has an excellent pro-life argument. Also, I see it as being hypocritical if you support the troops but you don't support the War in Iraq, or the War on Terror. I don't belive that there can be a separation of the two. If you support the troops, then you should support their mission as well.
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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 4:10 pm
Der_Freischuetz Miss Underwood I know.
I needed to b***h. I mean, I have not met such a hypocrite in forever!
MY DISGUISE! scream How'd you know? Your current profile stuff is pretty much the same as your previous one. Anyway, more on hypocrisy. In the comparison of abortion and the death penalty, it is far more hypocratic to support abortion yet be against the dealth penalty than it is to be pro-life and support the death penalty. In other words, you'd rather see an innocent being killed because it's considered an inconvenience, without due process of law, but you'd prefer it if a murderer wasn't killed because it costs too much. Yes, it's very barbaric to say that a fetus isn't human yet. Some people even go so far as to say that the fetus isn't even human, that it's more comparable to a parasite or cancer. The user My Conscience has an excellent pro-life argument. Also, I see it as being hypocritical if you support the troops but you don't support the War in Iraq, or the War on Terror. I don't belive that there can be a separation of the two. If you support the troops, then you should support their mission as well.
I agree with you, really. I mean, especially with the "killing off an innocent because it's an inconvenience" thing. When it's worded that way, you can't help but feel at least a little repulsed if you are pro-choice.
Exactly. I'm going into the army and my parents are Anti- bush,war, ect...
lol Wait'll thet learn.
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Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 8:43 am
Oh snap I know what you mean Not it all gaians that sit infront of Headline news for like 2 hours and they think they know it all. Lets face it News today are way too Bias. They are either on the left (Majority of it is...Pisses me off) or on the Right. But they got them people their News Reporters who are Phony as hell. They act like the actually know what they are talking about. Hell most news Reporters only got that job because they took a shot of c** in their mouths and Swallowed the whole ******** load......so they can go on T.V. but yeah Sent something their way to mess with them..... http://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15340375&page=13enjoy no response yet but I think I got them....
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 3:50 pm
At the same time, is it all right to be pro-life but also pro-capital punishment? Wouldn't that be the same thing as being pro-abortion and anti-capital punishment? We all have reasons to justify our opinions, but I suppose these confuse me the most. Or perhaps it's not confusing at all. To start, I can't possibly accept the idea that a "fetus" (because the term "unborn child" is such a deliberate attempt to gain people's sympathy rolleyes ) should be killed because it's not technically "alive" yet. Even without statistics like how early it's heart starts beating, etc, it's still a "potential" life form even to pro-abortion people. It makes me wonder how much value they put on human life that they can know that and still be pro-choice. Personally I could never reconcile the two.
I suppose capital punishment really is different from abortion because the people on death row have made decisions what to do with their life. An unborn child has no say in what happens to them at all - it's not the child's fault one or both of his parents made a bad choice. In the case of rape I would be more understanding, but still encourage the mother to have the baby. Once again, it's not the child's fault how it was conceived. But a criminal on death row, despite any environmental challenges or hardships, has ultimately in my opinion made their own decisions how to deal with life. I hate to say they deserve to die, but it might naive not to.
Then you incorporate the religious aspect. If the criminal dies, they have no more chances for redemption according to Christian religion. And even non-religious people can look at the situation and say that death will prevent the criminal from atonement and the potential good he could do in the world if he were allowed to live. But then there's the practical aspect - our jails simply can't hold so many prisoners. That sounds like a harsh and cold reason to validate capital punishment, but it does have to be considered.
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