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 Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 3:53 pm
I dunno...my take here: Smoking tobacco (or chewing for that matter) is not a sin per se (no direct scripture pertaining to it). Keeping your temple pure, yes, it would fall into the category of that perhaps as does my coffee etc and soda and well just about all the food"stuff" we eat these days. The Mormons may have one on us there.
I know smoking did kill my father (he was smoking back in the days when no one really knew..before the warning label was mandated, way before we learned that cigs are indeed addicting not merely habit-forming). It took him by inches over the course of 3 years and was very painful. He went from 6'5" and 200ish lbs down to a 100 lb skeleton-man, which might look cool as anime but not in real life. It killed him at 48, which sounded old to me then when I was 19 but now I am almost 47 and it is not as old as it may sound to any of you..youthful spirit persists.
If you don't smoke already, it's best not to start. If you already do, then you do what you can, etc. It's never too late to quit and repair damage but it is a personal health choice and there are certainly worse things you could be doiing to yourself.
As for damaging others second-hand, that would be wrong just as it would be wrong to drive drunk cus you can kill folks that way too just usually more swiftly than 2nd hand lung cancer. If you smoke, I think a certain amount of etiquette is required such as asking others around you if it's okay to light up and if not then where may they do so. I do not permit it in my own home cus of the smoke lingering and I ahve kids etc.
But I would not *not* be friends with someone I would otherwise like just as I would hope no one would hold it against me that I don't smoke! (Gotta confess I miss the smell of pipe tobacco though).
Drinking-wise, scripture does not condemn drinking just getting drunk. As far as underage smoking or drinking goes, *that* would be sin cus it's illegal and scripture says we must abide by our authorities so long as man's law does not contradict God's law. This would hold true obviously for illegal substances if only for the fact they are illegal. If they wer made legal, then we would be back to the situation of it's my choice to harm myself but not okay if my behaviour harms you type of thing.
By the way, most of the damage from smoking comes from, well, the smoke, and the smoke from pot is even thicker than that of cigs and since it is meant to be more fully inhaled than cigs it *will* cause more damage. Now if you're suffering from cancer and the stuff helps to deal with the pain, I don't see the harm , or glaucoma, it is proven effective, etc, it's just too bad that for that it is still illegal.
But recreationally??? I dunno...seems most folks could figure out better ways to entertain themselves..besides which when I have fun, I like to remember having fun.
AutumnCat
By the way, you all have much better discussions than what I have read one some MySpace, Yahoo, and CafeMom Christian groups. Most of those ones I have read are rather superficial.
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:18 am
The smell of it is disgusting, plus it's a nonsential waste of money. I never intend to start smoking and I've never understood why some people smoke. True that it must be hard to quit once they are already used to it, but I don't get why they even started with it.
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 8:59 am
Luz Oscura The smell of it is disgusting, plus it's a nonessential waste of money. I never intend to start smoking and I've never understood why some people smoke. True that it must be hard to quit once they are already used to it, but I don't get why they even started with it. most things are a non-essential waste of money. the computer you typed that from and the internet connection that allowed you to get to this site being two readily available examples and alcohol being another. i started smoking at 16 when my friend died because it gave me a head rush, numbed the pain and was cheaper than pot (it also comes pre-rolled)
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Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 8:18 pm
Drinking is by far worse for you, and others, than smoking is, but you don't see the ban-hammer on alcohol in the world nearly as much as you see smoking. Smoking does more looking damage on the outside, but drinking is a far bigger problem that is mostly internal. Yet people like to drink because it's their god to them, in which they turn to that as an addiction instead of looking to God. Drinking by itself is fine, but never being drunk, that causes you to lose yourself to the addiction and then where's God's will in that?
That being said, smoking is bad and so is anything else that causes harm to your body, especially the more mental a problem it becomes with the level of addiction and physical effect on the brain (i.e. drugs).
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Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 6:16 am
there is quite a thick line between addiction and habbit. i'm drunk on a regular basis. but never to the point where i'm sloppy and never if i have somewhere to be the next day. i smoke about 3/4of a pack a day and if i run out before payday i'll bum them like a madman. which is the addiction?
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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:02 pm
I dont like it, but its my personal choice.
I'd rather not destroy my body =S
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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:34 pm
I've got one thing to say:
I'm glad my parents quit.
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 7:39 am
Hey Dark Stars! =D happy to see you did join. Yeah, one of my 'rents smoke, cigs are not that bad, but it would be best to start once your of age.
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 6:04 pm
why waste your life,and that of people around u
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Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 12:28 pm
we all have to die sometime. i figure that lung cancer is as good a way as any.
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 8:56 am
I have no problem with people smoking - just not around me when I'm in a room. Outside not such a big deal.
I only say that because the secondhand/sidestream smoke produced by cigarettes is four times more toxic than the firsthand/mainstream smoke. I don't really want to be breathing it in if I don't smoke anyway.
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