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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 11:31 am


ALot of people use Self-Initiation as their entrace to the Craft, and i've found that alot of people, mostly Gardnerians, find that Coven and lineaged initiation are the only ways to be considered truly Wiccan.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 3:48 pm


I think they both work, except the coven thing is a little more fancy. Maybe I think that way because I've never actually been in a coven, though I've been offered numerous times. A lot of us started out as solitary practitioners (or most of the people I've met), so I'm sure you can do self-initiation as well as being "brought over" by a Coven.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 6:05 am


It depends on what kind of practice you're going for which one is best suited to you. Historically, Wicca in its traditional form was indeed lineaged and coven-based only. Upon its importation to America, however, it took on the flavor of the local culture which doesn't tend to value that kind of semi-elitist secrecy. The American take on Wicca opened up the movement to the general public, allowing for things like self-initiation. In the process, however, it can be argued that Dedicatory Wicca is missing something that Traditional Wicca posesses.

Personally, I seriously question whether or not certain forms of Dedicatory practice are really different enough from Traditional Wicca to fly under two completely different banners. In the end, you can really call yourself what you like. Most people are accepting of Dedicatory Wiccans... though some places around here on Gaia are exceptions to that. sweatdrop
PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 4:52 pm


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It depends on what kind of practice you're going for which one is best suited to you. Historically, Wicca in its traditional form was indeed lineaged and coven-based only. Upon its importation to America, however, it took on the flavor of the local culture which doesn't tend to value that kind of semi-elitist secrecy. The American take on Wicca opened up the movement to the general public, allowing for things like self-initiation. In the process, however, it can be argued that Dedicatory Wicca is missing something that Traditional Wicca posesses.

Personally, I seriously question whether or not certain forms of Dedicatory practice are really different enough from Traditional Wicca to fly under two completely different banners. In the end, you can really call yourself what you like. Most people are accepting of Dedicatory Wiccans... though some places around here on Gaia are exceptions to that. sweatdrop

It wasn't really "Wicca" then was it?
Isn't Wicca the new branch of the tradition?
In any event it all depends on wot feels right to you^^

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 12:37 pm


I self-initiated myself, and like it was said before, it mostly depends on what tradition you initiate yourself to. I'm an eclectic solitary, so it doesn't really matter with me. I personally don't care if you're self-initiated or initiated by an experienced Witch or Priestess/Priest.

(Beware, this is randomness coming. I can't help but type it.) But most people who do care, they didn't answer the age-old question of 'Who initiated the first witch?'

Enjoy another ramble provided by Freya sweatdrop
PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 1:41 pm


I think both are just as good. I plan to use self initiation because I can't find a coven anywhere near where I live.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 1:42 pm


Avenorell
I self-initiated myself, and like it was said before, it mostly depends on what tradition you initiate yourself to. I'm an eclectic solitary, so it doesn't really matter with me. I personally don't care if you're self-initiated or initiated by an experienced Witch or Priestess/Priest.

(Beware, this is randomness coming. I can't help but type it.) But most people who do care, they didn't answer the age-old question of 'Who initiated the first witch?'

Enjoy another ramble provided by Freya sweatdrop
Interesting way of putting it.
PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 6:06 am


I wouldn't use the term self-initiation, though, personally. Initiation, by definition, must be confered upon you by someone other than yourself. If that be the Gods, than it could be considered initiation. It can be better, though, to use the term self-dedication rather than self-initiation. Just an FYI.

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Avenorell

PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 10:38 pm


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Avenorell
I self-initiated myself, and like it was said before, it mostly depends on what tradition you initiate yourself to. I'm an eclectic solitary, so it doesn't really matter with me. I personally don't care if you're self-initiated or initiated by an experienced Witch or Priestess/Priest.

(Beware, this is randomness coming. I can't help but type it.) But most people who do care, they didn't answer the age-old question of 'Who initiated the first witch?'

Enjoy another ramble provided by Freya sweatdrop
Interesting way of putting it.

Why thank you. sweatdrop
PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 6:02 am


I am currently on a solitary path. I am only a dedicant but I am going to initiate myself most definitally.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:06 pm


I initiated myself, and started a coven back at home. I became the priestess of my coven and i have the most materials of the lot of us. Heh, our first emergency-meeting was to dispel certain unhappy spirits that had yet to cross over at our school. It worked really well considering! And at the time there were only four of us. mrgreen biggrin
I am a very devoted wiccan and i celebrate it as much as i can. And when i can, i indulge my roommates (there are four of them) into my adopted traditions. They certainly seem to enjoy it. mrgreen
PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 9:40 am


PrincessSophia
I initiated myself, and started a coven back at home. I became the priestess of my coven and i have the most materials of the lot of us. Heh, our first emergency-meeting was to dispel certain unhappy spirits that had yet to cross over at our school. It worked really well considering! And at the time there were only four of us. mrgreen biggrin
I am a very devoted wiccan and i celebrate it as much as i can. And when i can, i indulge my roommates (there are four of them) into my adopted traditions. They certainly seem to enjoy it. mrgreen


Great to see you're enjoying your practice and have others with you along for the ride!

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 4:41 pm


my initiation consisted of entering a magic circle, and having my now dead mentore say, little sorceress you are now a witch, bring forth the light and give no voice to evil. Blessed be. then we all had this big party and I got drunk for the first time lol I was only 8 but it was still all in good fun! whee
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