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Sith_Lord_Steven

PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 1:55 pm


Now I am a Church Going Person Every Sunday for me. I do countless volunteer work and what not. I plan on becomming a Minister when I get older. Now I just got chewed out from someone because, I said that some stories in the bible are like 'Ring Around the Rosey. Meaning that Ring around the rosey had meaning to it like it represented the Black Death. I think that few stories in the Old Testament are like that the biggest one being Adam and Eve. I think this because I don't believe the whole talking snakes and what not. But It does have a message to it though In your life there will be people to make you disobey god's word. and it isn't easy.
NOW
I do believe Jesus is my Lord and Savior I believe he rose once and he will rise again.
But what I said above makes me a bad christian.....
Do you Agree or Disagree
PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 1:57 pm


If you wanna talk to me about this PM me..

Sith_Lord_Steven


yzz_90

PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 7:05 pm


First of all, people can't make you disobey God's Word. In fact, nobody can. Not even Satan himself. God's power is far greater than anyone else's; He is the true King of Kings and the Lord of Lords. I'm not sure, but it seems that you're saying that you find it hard to fathom supernatural events such as talking donkeys, fire from heaven, flaming chariots, etc. That's completely understandable. That doesn't make you a bad Christian. It's okay to question, it's okay to say, "Is this true?" In fact, questioning is encouraged in biblical Christianity. You should talk to your pastors for help with this. Ask about the baptism of the Holy Spirit and see what this supernatural stuff is all about, there's nothing to be scared of. I speak in tongues (ie a language that I had never learned). This could not happen without the reality of the supernatural world over which God has control. If you want to discuss this further, pm me.
PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 7:20 pm


I guess I don't really know what you are trying to say.
Are you saying that when you were 'discussing' the bible with somebody that you told them that snakes don't talk?
I know that you shouldn't take the whole bible literly. Is that bad? I don't think so. Of course snakes don't talk but a demon shure could temp you seeming like it's a snake and talking to you. I'm not quite sure since I'm just a christian and not becoming a priest or anything, I don't study the old testiment much, but I do have my own opinons.

Seority


rockmanx

PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 2:02 pm


Sith_Lord_Steven
Now I am a Church Going Person Every Sunday for me. I do countless volunteer work and what not. I plan on becomming a Minister when I get older. Now I just got chewed out from someone because, I said that some stories in the bible are like 'Ring Around the Rosey. Meaning that Ring around the rosey had meaning to it like it represented the Black Death. I think that few stories in the Old Testament are like that the biggest one being Adam and Eve. I think this because I don't believe the whole talking snakes and what not. But It does have a message to it though In your life there will be people to make you disobey god's word. and it isn't easy.
NOW
I do believe Jesus is my Lord and Savior I believe he rose once and he will rise again.
But what I said above makes me a bad christian.....
Do you Agree or Disagree
Nope. What you said is very thrue. As a matter of fact, much of Adam and Eve can be taken as symbols. Remeber that Satan is call a serpent becuase they way he moves around. The serpent in the garden may not be a real snake but Satan's nick name. Also, the hebrew and greek leads to that Satan may just have trick Eve into having sex with him. I know that will upset people becuase they don't that is possible but last I check, we don't have much info on what a no-flesh body can do.
PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 2:43 pm


I think this is something you should schedule a talk with your minister about. If you plan on becoming a minister yourself, you should become better accquainted with what you'll be expected to embrace and teach.

kim ocean


Muffin Face

PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 4:19 pm


What ever happened in the bible happened excatly the way it is written. The is no 'symbols' and whatnot. Yes, they are symbols now but in the story of Adam and Eve the snake did talk when everything was still right and holy, animals could talk and they wouldn't kill you. Talk to an authority in your church about this and have this cleared up for you.
PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 3:32 pm


One sin is the same as any other. there are know good or bad christian

Underground_X


[xxxSquall_Leonhartxxx]

PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 5:24 pm


You are still a good Christian. It doesn't matter if you believe a few things in the bible are ring around. As long as you don't hate scriptures or something like that.
PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 11:13 pm


From the way you were talking about all the good things you said (go to church, become a minister, etc), I just want you to make sure that being a good Christian isn't about all that stuff. It's about whether you have a deep, growing, personal relationship with God. I believe that when you have that, you believe everything in the Word. If Jesus could be risen fom the dead in 3 days, don't you think snakes could talk? I don't know if it's a symbol or anything, but it's definitely possible! God is all powerful, saying you don't think the snake could talk is questioning God's strength! It doesn't make you a bad Christian, you just need to turn from your doubt and repent. Listen more to God and talk to a trusted Christian adult.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 10:58 am


I think what you're feeling is a form of doubt (IMO correct me if you think I'm wrong) but the point is if you beleive that Jesus is your Lord and Savior, and that He died for your sins and then rose again and will be back someday, which many people don't beleive because they don't think that anyone can rise from the dead, then don't you think that He could make snakes talk? He is all-knowing, all-powerful, and if He is able to solve the world's problems, make blind people see, the lame walk, and such, then it wouldn't be that much of a feat for Him to make words come from a serpents mouth!! Here are some scriptures that you might find comforting and/or helpful:
Matthew 11:1-6 : After Jesus had finished instructing his twelve disciples, He went on from there to teach and preach in the towns of Galilee. 2When John heard in prison what the Messiah was doing, he sent his disciples 3 to ask him, "Are you the one who was to come, or should we expect someone else?" 4 Jesus replied, "Go back and report to John what you hear and see: 5 the blind receive sight, the lame walk, those who have leprosy are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, and the good news is proclaimed to the poor. 6 Blessed is anyone who does not stumble on account of me."
Some other Scriptures I recommend for doubting beleivers, but don't want to write out are:
John 20:24-29; Hebrews 3:12; James 1:5-8.
For Faith:
Hebrews 11:1-2

One of my favorite verses is as follows:
Where can I go from your Spirit? Where can I flee from your presence? If I go up to the Heavens, you are there. If I rise on the wings of the dawn, if I settle on the far side of the sea, even there your hand will guide me, your right hand will hold me fast. Psalm 139:7-10

It just comforts me to know that wherever I go, God will be with me.
Thanks, and I hope this helps!

PS This is the NIV version...
PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 11:46 am


No i don't think that you are a bad christian at all. it is right to say one's opinion as well as question The Word. Some people may not think that questioning the word is a good idea that it shuns you from God but it doesn't. Like a father, God wishes for us to learn, to be free, and most of all to keep faith in him and to live our lives through his teaching.

Shymia


Chichi_san12

PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 1:58 pm


hard to say.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 11:57 am


Sith_Lord_Steven

But what I said above makes me a bad christian.....
Do you Agree or Disagree

I completely disagree. Here's why.

Some stories are meant to be taken metaphorically. If the genre is poetry, it doesn't need to be literal. Exaggeration or understatement is a standard convention of Hebrew poetry.

With Adam and Eve, the story has a lot of messages about God. God intentionally created human beings, not out of some chaotic fight. God created humans for His glory, not to meet some physical need He has. God did not do it through manipulation, God was intentional about it every step of the way. The stars are not gods, they are creations of God. God is powerful. God is father. God existed before creation. Sin is powerful, sin is evil, and sin has destroyed our relationship with God. Sin must be punished.

Also, about that talking snake thing....the word for serpent in Hebrew has same root word as the word for seraph. In ancient Israel, seraphs were potrayed as these serpents with, well, everything that the serpent in genesis looses.

Don't say that Adam and Eve is a representative story because of the talking snakes thing. If you hold that position, get some better proof than that. I'm going to assume that you have thought about that more but simply didn't post that.

It doesn't make you a bad christian because you question things. Questioning is a good thing. We are to question, as 1 John 4 says.

Berezi

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