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 Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 12:14 am
This thread is for the discussion of the cd Khaos/Kinema. This cd was a maxe single containing four songs on two discs. The discussion here should be about only the music that appears on this album. This disucussion can range from musical discussion to discussions about the overall feel of the album. So long as the conversation focuses around the music from this album then it is on topic! Khaos/Kinema  -nov-26-2003- -tracklist- KHAOS -01- ISM -02- CACOPHONY KINEMA -01- Promenade -02- Honey Vanity
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Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 5:20 pm
The Khaos disc doesn't really strike my fancy, but Kinema gets a big bonus for having my two favourite Kozi tracks. I've already mentioned elsewhere (Catharsis thread) why I like Promenade. I like honey Vanity for a similar reason- it is calming, yes, but there is more to Honey Vanity as well. The song at first it upbeat and happy, but the words are less so. It gives the song a bittersweet feeling, I think.
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Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 10:13 am
At first I wasn't very into the Kinema disc either but I slowly grew to love it based on the fact that it accomplishes the purpose Kozi had for it. It acts as a sort of balence to Kinema's solfter side. That entire album (in my opinion) does a great job of brining together two opposing or opposite sides (in packaging, Kozi's looks, and the music itself) in such a way that the discs help enhance the effect of the opposing album. Would Kinema really seem as light, bittersweet, and playful as it does without being compared to Khaos? Would Khaos seem as weighted, distant, and scathing without being compared to Kinema?
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Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 11:15 am
Ah, I never thought of it in that way. I hapened to look over the fact that the two discs came as one album- now that you mention it, is a wonderfully thought-out contrast for Kozi's sake. Contrast and balance is a wonderful addition to an album on two discs.
What if Kozi had just set it up on one disc? I don't tihnk it would be the same effect, then, either.
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Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 11:23 am
I think that Khaos/Kinema was probably Kozi's most thought out release even though it ony contains four songs. It seems that he took his concept to every aspect of the release. His two different looks, the two discs, the packaging...it all went around a central theme.
As much as I love songs from this release I also believe that the album wouldn't have had such a strong effect had it not been presented in the way it was. If all the songs were on one disc I think that "Cacophony" and "Ism" would probably have been overlooked and not appreciated as much due to the qualities that "Honey Vanity" and "Promenade" have.
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Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 12:24 pm
ShinobiRedScarf I think that Khaos/Kinema was probably Kozi's most thought out release even though it ony contains four songs. It seems that he took his concept to every aspect of the release. His two different looks, the two discs, the packaging...it all went around a central theme. As much as I love songs from this release I also believe that the album wouldn't have had such a strong effect had it not been presented in the way it was. If all the songs were on one disc I think that "Cacophony" and "Ism" would probably have been overlooked and not appreciated as much due to the qualities that "Honey Vanity" and "Promenade" have. So basically.. as a whole album, it is a wonderful invention. But divided into separate parts, it is like a jigsaw puzle not yet put together. For listeners to get what Kozi was trying to achieve, it is necessary to look at the work as a whole. Wtih regards to Cacophony, I was going to say something about the name of the song itself. It's a common English-course term for jarring or harsh noises- much like the background music to Cacophony. I thought that was pretty clever of him, and I wonder what aims he might have had in making that connection to his song~
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Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 12:59 pm
Draco-bu So basically.. as a whole album, it is a wonderful invention. But divided into separate parts, it is like a jigsaw puzle not yet put together. For listeners to get what Kozi was trying to achieve, it is necessary to look at the work as a whole. I agree but I do still think that the songs are interesting enough on their own. I just don't think they are as amazing if you seperate them from each other and the concept they are part of. When you look at this release as a whole I think it is quite strong. I was hoping that more of his releases would have the same dedication to a concept that this one did. Draco-bu Wtih regards to Cacophony, I was going to say something about the name of the song itself. It's a common English-course term for jarring or harsh noises- much like the background music to Cacophony. I thought that was pretty clever of him, and I wonder what aims he might have had in making that connection to his song~ I thought that the name of the song was quite clever as well. I couldn't imagine any other title that would capture the sound of this song...or even the feel of this song. "Cacophony" is a song that I have sat and thought about a lot. For a long time I was trying to figure out why it was that Kozi made the song entirely in English and why, out of all the songs he could have done in english, was this song so angry. It was if he was commenting on anger within our culture by using English to express his anger. I was also wondering if he thought it was easier to express anger in english and if so what does that say about western culture?
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Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 4:46 am
I also agree with the whole contrast concept. The art is amazing im my opinion, one side being black with the red lines and the other red with the black lines... and the reason of having 2 songs on 2 CDs, and 2 being more "upbeat" sounding than the other.... thats just awesome 3nodding The eyes are awesome as well... what do you think those mean? (I really like the eye on the KHAOS side though haha). And since a song like CACOPHONY is on the KHAOS side and its a really "angry sounding" song, then the name just goes perfect with it. Anger=Chaos, etc.
sweatdrop Sorry if im not making any sense lol
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Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 7:31 am
You were making sense, love. 3nodding
I'm on a "Honey Vanity" kick at the moment and I had to come in here and babble about it for a minute. You see, this song was my first EVER Kozi song. The first time I heard it I was amazed at how wonderful it was...How it was different from pretty much everything I had ever heard and at the same time it felt so familiar and comfortable. Hearing this song was an, "Oh, this is what I've been wanting all along" moment. Everything about the song made me smile and musically appealed to me. Even still, when I listen to it I feel just as amazed and excited about it as when I first heard it.
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Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 4:56 am
ShinobiRedScarf You were making sense, love. 3nodding I'm on a "Honey Vanity" kick at the moment and I had to come in here and babble about it for a minute. You see, this song was my first EVER Kozi song. The first time I heard it I was amazed at how wonderful it was...How it was different from pretty much everything I had ever heard and at the same time it felt so familiar and comfortable. Hearing this song was an, "Oh, this is what I've been wanting all along" moment. Everything about the song made me smile and musically appealed to me. Even still, when I listen to it I feel just as amazed and excited about it as when I first heard it. Honey Vanity was also my first Kozi song. i instantly thought of how happy-sounding it was, and though the lyrics are a lot more sad. (At the time, I could only pick out a few words, such as "kanashimi and "sayonara"). It gives the song a very bittersweet feeling, and that's probably why I like it so much to this say. The remix version(s) just don't have the same bittersweet appeal, I think.
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Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 5:00 am
ShinobiRedScarf Draco-bu So basically.. as a whole album, it is a wonderful invention. But divided into separate parts, it is like a jigsaw puzle not yet put together. For listeners to get what Kozi was trying to achieve, it is necessary to look at the work as a whole. I agree but I do still think that the songs are interesting enough on their own. I just don't think they are as amazing if you seperate them from each other and the concept they are part of. When you look at this release as a whole I think it is quite strong. I was hoping that more of his releases would have the same dedication to a concept that this one did. Draco-bu Wtih regards to Cacophony, I was going to say something about the name of the song itself. It's a common English-course term for jarring or harsh noises- much like the background music to Cacophony. I thought that was pretty clever of him, and I wonder what aims he might have had in making that connection to his song~ I thought that the name of the song was quite clever as well. I couldn't imagine any other title that would capture the sound of this song...or even the feel of this song. "Cacophony" is a song that I have sat and thought about a lot. For a long time I was trying to figure out why it was that Kozi made the song entirely in English and why, out of all the songs he could have done in english, was this song so angry. It was if he was commenting on anger within our culture by using English to express his anger. I was also wondering if he thought it was easier to express anger in english and if so what does that say about western culture? The songs, yes, they are also very nice on their own. But to gather the meaning of the album was what I meant. Each song is like a piece of a jigsaw puzzle. (That, as we found in this thread, isn't very hard to put together. XD) Perhaps about the anger thing.. I don't know for sure, but perhaps there is a lot more of negative emotion in western culture as opposed to Asia and such places. Or- this may be a long shot- maybe Kozi was experimenting with expressing emotion in different languages. Being Japanese, it is natural that he could express anger in Japanese. But, perhaps he wanted to try in English. (Also, think of the Japanese fans who bought the album- they most likely wouldn't understand everything being said, and that might have an effect also.. like when we listen to Japanese, we often need translations.)
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Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 1:49 am
Draco-bu ShinobiRedScarf You were making sense, love. 3nodding I'm on a "Honey Vanity" kick at the moment and I had to come in here and babble about it for a minute. You see, this song was my first EVER Kozi song. The first time I heard it I was amazed at how wonderful it was...How it was different from pretty much everything I had ever heard and at the same time it felt so familiar and comfortable. Hearing this song was an, "Oh, this is what I've been wanting all along" moment. Everything about the song made me smile and musically appealed to me. Even still, when I listen to it I feel just as amazed and excited about it as when I first heard it. Honey Vanity was also my first Kozi song. i instantly thought of how happy-sounding it was, and though the lyrics are a lot more sad. (At the time, I could only pick out a few words, such as "kanashimi and "sayonara"). It gives the song a very bittersweet feeling, and that's probably why I like it so much to this say. The remix version(s) just don't have the same bittersweet appeal, I think. Part of what makes "Honey Vanity" so amazing is how utterly charming it is...lyrically, tonaly, and musically. The remix messes with both the vocal tone and the music arrangement so it messes with the entire feel of the song. It isn't BAD, necessarily, but it certainly doesn't compare to the original.
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 4:43 pm
My first taste of Kozi's solo work was also Honey Vanity, and two years later I still can't get enough. I also like Promenade, Cacophony and ISM, but Honey Vanity was my first so it has a place in my heart. heart I think that this album is the easiest of his to find, looking for the others has been almost damn near impossible.
For those who DON'T know where to get Khaos/Kinema, I got mine at cdjapan.co.jp
But it might be out of print now because I heard Kozi only does limited print runs of his work.
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 4:48 pm
I think you can still find Loki N Roll at places like cdjapan. I do think that Memento and Catharsis are far more difficult to find. I had to go to ebay for Catharsis. J-XYZ was where I found Memento. You might want to try there. If something is out of print they kind of give you the run around about it though so be careful and stay on them about informing you of your order status.
"Honey Vanity" is actually the song most people hear first. I think it is a good introduction to Kozi's work as it displays themes that come through in many of his other works. It also remains one of my favorites.
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