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Kore wa ushi desu ka?
  Iei, sore wa ushi desu.
  Kore wa kawauso desu.
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Silverotter107

PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:22 pm


Wow, Japanese has a hard AND soft G too?! News to me. Well, anyway, I find this out, so now the question is, how can you tell the difference? Or is it like our wonderful language of English inwhich it's just pure dumb luck.
I also understand the soft G is pronounced like an N. But please!!! Correct me if I'm wrong.

Also, does the word gin (silver) have a soft or hard G?

Also, do you need an 'ei' at the end of sensei. I have this Learning Japanese book set, and it's spelled 'sense'. Is that right?
PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 9:27 pm


The "ei" depends on the accent or dialect. I think Tokyoites, therefore the Kansai dialect (right?) kinda extend their "e" sound so it's like "sense-". Some people from other parts of the country may argue about it or just plain go "huh?" because they've never heard of it before. It's nothing really to bother about.

I'm not too sure about the "g". Never really heard of that before.

wisteria darling


Lugii

PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 2:16 am


I think when the "g" is in the middle of the word it's pronouced as "nga". E.g. Hiragana is pronounced Hi-ra-nga-na.

But if it's in the beginning or end of the word it is pronounced as "g". E.g. Gozen.
PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 5:47 pm


Okay, thanks heart
How do you pronounce the soft G though...?
And how do you pronounce 'z'? Is it just 'z' like in zebra?

Silverotter107


Ame-no-Insomniac

PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 1:50 pm


Silverotter107
Okay, thanks heart
How do you pronounce the soft G though...?
And how do you pronounce 'z'? Is it just 'z' like in zebra?
I do believe Lukii's example is the soft G you speak of. 3nodding

And as for the Z, yes, it is pronounced just like the Z in zebra.
PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 3:29 pm


Yeah, I guessed that, but it made me confused, so I asked again. sweatdrop ...It makes much more sense now actually, really thinking about it.

And thank you.

Silverotter107


Aiko_589

PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 6:53 pm


Silverotter107
Wow, Japanese has a hard AND soft G too?! News to me. Well, anyway, I find this out, so now the question is, how can you tell the difference? Or is it like our wonderful language of English inwhich it's just pure dumb luck.
I also understand the soft G is pronounced like an N. But please!!! Correct me if I'm wrong.

Also, does the word gin (silver) have a soft or hard G?

Also, do you need an 'ei' at the end of sensei. I have this Learning Japanese book set, and it's spelled 'sense'. Is that right?


IT PRONOUNCE BY CULTURED PEOPLE LIKE THE G IN "SING"
PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 6:54 pm


Lugii
I think when the "g" is in the middle of the word it's pronouced as "nga". E.g. Hiragana is pronounced Hi-ra-nga-na.

But if it's in the beginning or end of the word it is pronounced as "g". E.g. Gozen.

IM SORRY TO SAY THIS COMPLETELY WRONG

Aiko_589


Aiko_589

PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 6:58 pm


IT IS USUALLY PROUNCE LIKE NORMAL G! ONLY CULTURED PEOPLE SAY IT LIKE WAY I DESCRIBE! SO PLEASE DO NOT GO AROUND SAYING "HIRANGANA!"
PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 7:06 pm


Silverotter107
Wow, Japanese has a hard AND soft G too?! News to me. Well, anyway, I find this out, so now the question is, how can you tell the difference? Or is it like our wonderful language of English inwhich it's just pure dumb luck.
I also understand the soft G is pronounced like an N. But please!!! Correct me if I'm wrong.

Also, does the word gin (silver) have a soft or hard G?

Also, do you need an 'ei' at the end of sensei. I have this Learning Japanese book set, and it's spelled 'sense'. Is that right?


that mean that it long sound held for tiwce as long! are you new to japanesE?

Aiko_589


Silverotter107

PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 9:37 am


Arigatou. You've helped alot. heart
PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 9:16 pm


Aiko_589


that mean that it long sound held for tiwce as long! are you new to japanesE?


3nodding A native speaker in my city informed me that "ei", like in "seiko" or "sensei", usually represents a long "e". It's a double-length syllable.

Aesi


Aiko_589

PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 5:32 pm


Aesi
Aiko_589


that mean that it long sound held for tiwce as long! are you new to japanesE?


3nodding A native speaker in my city informed me that "ei", like in "seiko" or "sensei", usually represents a long "e". It's a double-length syllable.

i surprised people did not know this
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