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 Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 4:26 am
Most philsosphers claim that you can't doubt everything. There is always something you know to be true. Be it 'I think therefore I am' or 'A square has four sides'.
I don't believe this and I think you can doubt everything.
Look at other people. Someone somewhere has a different opinion to you. So either their reason or your reason is incorrect, because it both your reasonings were correct you would have the same opinion. You don't know though which of you has the correct reasoning. Because you don't know you can doubt your own reasoning abilitys. I'm not saying your reason is wrong, just doubtable.
Now you are doubting your own reasoning capabiltys you can doubt your reasoning that led you to the conclusion that certain things can't be doubted. Even 'I think therefore I am'.
Reason says that I if I am doubting then I must exist to do the doubting and I am doubting so I must exist. But it is reason that led us to that and we are doubting reason so we are doubting the premise so we must doubt the conclusion.
So as we can doubt reason we can doubt everything. Even the idea that we can doubt everything because I used reason to work that out.
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Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 7:20 am
Of course you can doubt anything. It's just that it's rather stupid to doubt some things. To doubt that a square has four sides, for example, is to fly in the face of the actual DEFINITION of a square, which is a four-sided polygon with all angles at 90 degrees and all sides congruent to each of the others.
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Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 2:48 pm
There is always something to doubt, that I do agree with. But, in the case of many things and by using the 3-point theory that Socrates had created, there are sometimes many occasions in which you cannot doubt it. For instance, lets say you are wondering about the strange person that you keep meeting up with ' accidently'. It has happened more then twice, so, either he/she knows you somehow and is stalking you, or that it is truly chance. Erm..I admit that was a bad example, but what about the color of a crayon or the directions written on a ditto? It is apparent that you cannot doubt what the directions say or what the color is, the only thing you can doubt that that point is why it is written that way. It all depends on what you think and how you think, also your mentality of the situation.
A friend that you have had forever persei could have told you something that you may have found quite unnerving. Many choices have arisen, but doubt about them always appeares. It is human nature to doubt what they see or hear. That is the one thing that you cannot deny. But, if the friend told you something that didnt, you would obviously believe them; therefore, leaving no doubt in your soul or mind.
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Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 4:45 pm
Doubt is one thing that you cannot doubt as another example of not being able to doubt everything. Another example is that if I pop upo and shoot myself then you cannot doubt that I will bleed and I will feel some measure of pain and the rest of the world will think I'm suicidal, whether I am or not.
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Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 4:25 pm
Descartes tried doubting everything.
It helped him prove a few things irrefutably, but in the long run it didn't work out.
-Alezunde
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Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 5:34 pm
Aaah, the eternal skeptic. I love it! biggrin
I think it's always a good thing to question everything, even the simple things that seem 'stupid' to question, for often times, by questioning things we take for granted you can come to some amazing insights. Of course you have a system of truths in your own mind, but it's good to remember these truths are only yours, and others might not share them. This attitude also helps foster open-mindedness and tolerance of others.
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Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 5:59 pm
Agreed.
Question everything - but I think you should also not doubt everything. wink
-Alezunde
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 3:06 pm
Maybe you just have to accept some things as true so that you can continue with life? That's what it seems to me, which supports Scorpo's comment on the definition of a square. You could question it... but what purpose would it serve? Postulates exist so that you can find things out based on them. Knowlege is sometimes based on assumption.
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Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 3:58 pm
I assert that there is an underlying reality to the universe, and to doubt it is to be foolish. What's there to deny in (2+2=4) or "This sentence is true."? Nothing. With our human minds, these things are rationally undeniable. They are self contained truths, much like your existence. Not only do they not care if you doubt them, they are immutable, because their truthfulness is the fiber of their existence.
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 12:35 pm
The way i see it, and i think that some one already posted my thoughts, is that it is all relitive to wahat we belive. Albert fish thought that if he beat children with rocks than he would get into heaven. That was hish truth, he did not doubt it and he had his own logic to back it up. It is all relivive in my opinion.
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Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 11:16 pm
Of course there are somethings doubtable, but somethings just need to be believed for the opposites to be doubted.
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Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 6:23 pm
I'd like to offer up a post that argues why there is reason to doubt the bible. If this post should be put somewhere else please let me know, but I think it has at least a bit to do with the topic at hand.
After reading a graphic novel by one of my new favorite authors I came to the realization that the bible presents doubts itself. It straight-forward gives us reason to doubt what it has to say. Not only the phrases but also from the languages they were written in and the differences in them produce reason for doubt of it being the truth.
There are many "or's" and questionable vocabulary that are made note of in the footnotes of many study bibles. With the old Testament written in Hebrew and the New Testament written in Greek, there's plenty of room for both of these hard languages to be misunderstood and mistranslated.
Luke 17:20-21
The coming of the kingdom of God
Once, having been asked by the Pharasees when the kingdom of God would come, Jesus replied, "The kingdom of God does not come visibly, nor will people say, 'Here it is', or 'There it is', because the kingdom of God is within you."
I will try to find more to back this up, but this is what I have for now.
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