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 Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 1:29 pm
I know there is already a topic on abortion bans, but I thought I would make this a specific debate thread to see our views on if outright bans on abortion are the way to go.
That said, I am really questioning the outright bans. I definatly think that abortion should be illegal, but I'm not sure if a clear cut "now it's legal, now it's not" is a good idea.
I'm worried that women will take drastic measures and neither they, nor their unborn child will be saved. I think a better solution may be a sort of phase out of abortion while simultaneously phasing in support options for pregnant women and parents. I know that on the surface an outright ban on abortion seems like a victory, but I'm also worried it may backfire and lead to even more ardant support for the "right to choose" to the point where it becomes completely ingrained in our society(more so than it already is). None of these options seem like a "good solution". I really don't know what the best solution may be.
I would like to hear other's opinon on this and see where we all stand as there seems to be two schools of pro-life thought on this issue.
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Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 1:36 pm
although i'd like to see it just end, and thus save more lives, i think it would be more strategic to phase out, so that people can get used to it declining and hopefully lose the "my 4 months are worth more than a child's life" mentality, instead of snapping there
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Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:13 pm
I think it should be illegal to have one just because you don't want it but allowed to have one in there is a medical emegergancy (like if your going to die). Now and days woman can drop the babys off at fire stations or hospitals, no questions asked (out here anyways), they can do that so they don't have to kill the poor kid. And they try to preform on themselfs and they died, sorry to say but it's their own fault they knew the rules and risks and did so anyways.
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Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:17 pm
I am very reluctantly for phasing it out.
Although it will bring our ultimate goal more quickly...to be honest, I don't think the US is ready to go cold turkey as far as abortions go. I was shocked that South Dakota is giving it a shot. But then again, maybe SD is more prepared for it than other states. I hate saying that. I hate thinking that because it only means more have to die to get there.
But say legal abortion ends NOW. Then what? What reforms and protections have been put in place to prepare society for this withdrawel? We often talk about willing mothers getting the short end of the stick with abortion being in place. Now we'd have willing and unwilling mothers getting the short end of the stick...and the more dogmatic of the unwilling mothers will probably bring harm upon themselves unless they are given time to adjust slowly to a new (and hopefully better) society.
We have spent decades becoming a society where abortion has played a role. Heck...even more sexually liberated countires in Europe have stricter abortion laws than the US. As much as I wish I could change it, the reality is that it is going to take society a long time to wean off of abortion and find more positive means of aid. This means we have to promote women to seek out this ad and we have to make sure such aid is available.
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Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:58 pm
Slowly, but surely; a very appliable phrase to this situation.
It's important to remember people will still have uncontrolled sex and still have mishaps, so you need to drill it into people's minds the importance of some form of protection and/or other methods. Promote abstinence and celibacy (celebacy? celebicy?) where you can, and also try to teach people that sex is better in a committed relationship (it is. You know the territory and won't have to wake up with an STD the next morning).
I also think you have to keep in mind the knee-jerk reaction and realize if you pull quickly and forcibly they'll grab onto it quickly and forcibly. If you slowly take the rope from the hand, they'll slowly let go.
I also think the single parent (and I encourage you all to stop using single mother) idea is something that needs to be better upheld and respected in society, and supported. Let's face it, caring for a second person that can barely walk is a chore. We need a to live in a world where people can make these choices and decisions with minimal change in their lives.
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Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 5:46 pm
sachiko_sohma I think it should be illegal to have one just because you don't want it but allowed to have one in there is a medical emegergancy (like if your going to die). Now and days woman can drop the babys off at fire stations or hospitals, no questions asked (out here anyways), they can do that so they don't have to kill the poor kid. And they try to preform on themselfs and they died, sorry to say but it's their own fault they knew the rules and risks and did so anyways. indeed... i wouldn't mind snapping to it if planned parenthood and other pro-abortion douches wouldn't step up to try and turn it back perminantly... so i would rather go slowly and risk losing valuable ground...
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