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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2015 8:16 pm


For a Guild that I always wanted to try, but never had the whole process thought out before. What if we had a yet another Wrestling guild that is based in the world of GAIA? Only this one has a varying set of rules depending on which region of Gaia they happen to be competing in? And each different region has it's own title that can only be defended every four months in said region? So basically each league will be contested simultaneously. But every month a different league title is being defended by the champion vs the top ranking contender of that specified league. And One wrestler can be enlisted in two leagues at a time.

Something like this possibly:

Barton Town League: Traditional Wrestling with little to no lenience towards rule bending.

Isle De Gambino League: Centered on a fast paced, high risk style of wrestling. Anything on the death defying side will be found here.

Durem League: For those who like wrestling to be held in some sort of confined environment like the Elimination chamber, steel cage and other various arenas.

Akea League: For the no rules but hardcore rules enthusiast, this is your go to!

Obviously just a thought I'm toying with. any input?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 2:30 am


Maybe have one area that's more matr based stylesand another that trains brawler types?

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 11:04 am


As much as I like this concept, I think that it could very well be a system that could be established with the current active guilds, with cross-promotions shows in one guild and inter-guild championships, ehich could be used in the other guilds, etc.
PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 11:41 am


You already did something like this before, and it flopped and I ended up getting the guild.

It's not knocking on 'you' but the idea that it didn't work when we had a LOT more activity then than we do now, leads me to believe it's just not going to work again.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:49 pm


I'm completely behind the concept, but Chrono's right.

Instead we take this and refine it to taking out the Guild aspect, just making this based in the state or land of GAIA. I'm still up to hear ideas on those varying rules in region thing, yet not so up on the four month defense deal. I feel like a need a bit more clarity on this "simultaneously" thing. But... I'm for one wrestler per company. I have always had that mindset. Sure, I haven't followed it strictly, but at the most I've branched out (rarely/short time) to three and two. Mainly, I have always kept one home company at a time. GzW to GWWF to EWA to BBW.
It just feels more real to me with contracts and all, though it's just my opinion and by no means am I going to throw a hissy fit over a double booked wrestler.. I may use it to start a feud by an overly loyal character that has an issue with another over their second master.

I say we take our current guilds and place them one per town.
Yes, we may not have enough guilds for each town, that goes along with talent. Meaning we may need to go more than two per company and if we get more in.. the limit could change.

Barton Town: WWFG
Traditional Wrestling with little to no lenience towards rule bending.

Isle De Gambino:
Centered on a fast paced, high risk style of wrestling. Anything on the death defying side will be found here.

Durem: EWA
For those who like wrestling to be held in some sort of confined environment like the Elimination chamber, steel cage and other various arenas.

Akea: BBW
For the no rules but hardcore rules enthusiast, this is your go to!

In no way is this set by means of placed guild, town/city's gimmick, or how this whole region thing is run. So, I would say that if this is going to be built, it is the responsibility of everyone to have a say, otherwise.. much like marriage, speak now or forever hold your peace. Only those that come in after system is in place, has a say.

So, as Prime said before, "any input?"
PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 6:20 am


Why have a title defence every four months?! surprised

Fox's idea makes sense, but how would it be organised?! A centralised guild that everyone from each fed joins for the matches or people travel from fed-to-fed to have these matches and the centralised guild is used to keep track of everything that happens in each fed?!

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 1:53 pm


It won't work. Too few to keep it going.

Plain and simple.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 4:33 pm


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Why have a title defence every four months?! surprised

I think he is saying they take turns defending defending their title for the month and then its the next guild..
I think??

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But how would it be organised?! A centralised guild that everyone from each fed joins for the matches or people travel from fed-to-fed to have these matches and the centralized guild is used to keep track of everything that happens in each fed?!

No. We work it by way of Status=Activity. Depending on where you usually are on the card, is determined of how often you are booked/used in that town/city. As well as, if you are a legend or non-contract, basically someone that has built their reputation to live off their name alone. Like Mad Dog or Cartwright. No centralization.

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It won't work. Too few to keep it going.

Yes, it will. All we need to do is move ourselves into a new world.. the world of GAIA. You can make this work by way of company owners announcing their move into this town/city of choice. Any new companies can simply announce their opening within wanted location. This also opens new opportunities of taking use of this new world of GAIA's properties as a reality, along with our actual reality. Fantasy meets Reality.

Plain and simple.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 7:50 pm


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Why have a title defence every four months?! surprised

I think he is saying they take turns defending defending their title for the month and then its the next guild..
I think??

Cartwright
But how would it be organised?! A centralised guild that everyone from each fed joins for the matches or people travel from fed-to-fed to have these matches and the centralized guild is used to keep track of everything that happens in each fed?!

No. We work it by way of Status=Activity. Depending on where you usually are on the card, is determined of how often you are booked/used in that town/city. As well as, if you are a legend or non-contract, basically someone that has built their reputation to live off their name alone. Like Mad Dog or Cartwright. No centralization.

Mayor of Murderwood
It won't work. Too few to keep it going.

Yes, it will. All we need to do is move ourselves into a new world.. the world of GAIA. You can make this work by way of company owners announcing their move into this town/city of choice. Any new companies can simply announce their opening within wanted location. This also opens new opportunities of taking use of this new world of GAIA's properties as a reality, along with our actual reality. Fantasy meets Reality.

Plain and simple.


The only way this works is if people start becoming exclusive. And that won't happen, with our numbers.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 9:58 pm


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 10:59 pm


Here's why it won't work

Firstly because this was already attempted, and not only was it a huge flop but it was when we were at our apex of activity, by that I mean we had roughly 5-10 times more activity, and people than we do now.
Yes I currently own that guild now, and yes those championships were already used/merged whatever.
If something like that isn't working 'then' why would it work now?

No need to answer that rhetorical question, it won't.
But Chrono, why won't it work?

Well, there's the Ego factor, people want their guilds represented a certain way and if it's misrepresented even the slightest especially by someone who can't run a guild in the first place, it's going to go to hell.
Even if people can put aside their ego for a moment and work together it 'still' won't work.

Activity is not exactly at an all time low, but we don't have the same numbers as we used to far, far from it.
So let's say we get this proposed place up and running, one has to realize that most of the people on gaia that are around were either in middle school, or high school.
Now they're either in college, working or getting busy making a family of their own if they don't already have one.

Not everyone is going to put yet 'another' guild on their to 'do' list when their time is precious.
It's the commitment issue

But let's assume you've got both of those down pat, why won't it work?
The crew

You need a good dependable crew that is a representative from each guild
Let's go with the basic four right now

BBW
EWA
WWFG
WWEE

So let's say Matt, myself, Salem and Major, for argument's sake
then you have to have a moderator, let's say that since this was Draze's idea that it's Draze.

Now then there's the activity issue previously covered but let's just say that well, it's covered again for argument's sake

There are some people out there that don't like Matt
there are some a lot of people out there that don't like me
same with Salem, same with Major
Not so much Major and Matt...
There are some people out there that don't like Draze

So imagine a crew full of people that aren't liked, it's not going to go over well. I mean I can name examples, but I 'really' don't need to.
We all know guilds of that type.

So once again 'Ego' plays a part, this time in a different sense.

But somehow we overcome 'that' hurdle.

The exclusivity factor
By that I mean that certain people contracted to only one federation.

Let's use Fox for this example because he brought it up

Fox is contracted to BBW, Fox can only compete on the BBW/Aekea show because that's where he's contracted.Yes he can compete in the actual 'home' guild, but in this Town guild only on the BBW show.

Fox would have to end his contract with BBW to compete at another show, or sign a contract or something to get him to compete at another competitor show. Well what if Management of BBW has something planned for Fox on a big show that takes place at the same time as another Big show that Fox is signed up for in another town?

By that I mean let's say BBW's "Hardcore Harvest' is taped on a Saturday, but airs Sunday. Fox participates in a WWFG Halloween Havoc show live that Sunday night. Basically Fox is now on two shows at the same time
Because unless all of these shows are ran on say skype (rp wise) then these shows are going to intertwine at some point. Most PPVs last 3-4 weeks for people to do their matches

"Realistically' one cannot be in two places at once, because we're introducing a 'realistic' factor into this now. It's a dilemma.

But Chrono how is this an issue? Can't people schedule one big event for one month and then another company does theirs another month? So this "doesn't" happen?

Yes and no, here's why. Let's break it down with the four main guilds

BBW
EWA
WWFG
WWE:E

Four guilds, 12 months right?
Now to even out the events we're going to go with every guild getting a PPV month after the cycle of the previous guilds have had their PPV.
It should look like this

BBW PPVs: Jan, May, Sept
EWA PPVs: Feb, June, Oct
WWFG PPVs: March. July,Nov
WWE:E PPVs: April. Aug, Dec


But four months between PPVs? That's crazy! Gotta have a special event somewhere right? Something needs to be between shows event wise to hype up a show, or you know just to have a little extra something

So let's say three months after their PPVs

BBW events: April, Aug, Dec
EWA events: May, Sept, Jan
WWFG events: June, Oct, Feb
WWE:E events: July, Nov, March

So it'd look like total.
BBW: Jan, April, May, Aug, Sept, Dec
EWA: Feb, May, June, Sept, Oct, Jan
WWFG: Feb, March, June,July, Oct, Nov
WWE:E April, June, July, Aug, Nov, Dec

Got some overlapping going on, that's a LOT of guild announcements
Let's not forget that there are going to be shows going on between you know 'weekly' shows (that RP wise last longer).

Even more overlapping, even more and more guild announcements

But what's this have to do with anything?

Well, what if another guild joins in? They're going to have to overlap their schedule onto another already vastly overbooked schedule.

In the end it becomes a ******** are too many issues and variables to work out, to even remotely get around that it wouldn't be worth doing in the first place

Not to mention the whole Ego, activity, exclusivity, and crew factor to even make this feasible.
Sorry if this bursts anyone's bubble but it just won't work.

Didn't work then, won't work now.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 12:01 pm


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The only way this works is if people start becoming exclusive. And that won't happen, with our numbers.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 12:48 pm


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Cartwright
Why have a title defence every four months?! surprised

I think he is saying they take turns defending defending their title for the month and then its the next guild..
I think??

Cartwright
But how would it be organised?! A centralised guild that everyone from each fed joins for the matches or people travel from fed-to-fed to have these matches and the centralized guild is used to keep track of everything that happens in each fed?!

No. We work it by way of Status=Activity. Depending on where you usually are on the card, is determined of how often you are booked/used in that town/city. As well as, if you are a legend or non-contract, basically someone that has built their reputation to live off their name alone. Like Mad Dog or Cartwright. No centralization.

Mayor of Murderwood
It won't work. Too few to keep it going.

Yes, it will. All we need to do is move ourselves into a new world.. the world of GAIA. You can make this work by way of company owners announcing their move into this town/city of choice. Any new companies can simply announce their opening within wanted location. This also opens new opportunities of taking use of this new world of GAIA's properties as a reality, along with our actual reality. Fantasy meets Reality.

Plain and simple.


The only way this works is if people start becoming exclusive. And that won't happen, with our numbers.

Either the person becomes exclusive or the characters become exclusive, which would keep the numbers high in each guild. However, I doubt that even the most focused person would be able to create 4-5 different characters and be equally invested in all of them, or at least bring the necessary effort in all 5 places to do something interesting with all of them, both for the RPer and his competitors.

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