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 Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 5:30 pm
http://www.legis.state.tx.us/tlodocs/84R/billtext/pdf/HB01748I.pdf#navpanes=0
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/03/transgender-bathroom-discrimination-bills
With this stuff going on, I think it's time to jump the bandwagon and get talking on how we feel about the restroom restrictions going on or are about to happen.
Be civil and discuss on this topic.
Personally, I think it's BS on how this law came to being formed. Then again, not surprised.
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Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:02 am
The Texas bill really confuses me, like they seem to give an awfully big effort in including people with final chromosomes like XXY for example, yet they don't understand a thing about gender-identity (which obviously isn't based on someone's chromosomes.) How can they at the same time be aware of diversity of last part of the chromosomes and still be that blind?
I read some of the comments on the MJ article, and this could really turn against these people who proposed this pretty "badly"; according to this transmen would have to use women's spaces? Now wouldn't that just be fantastic, enter even-more-awkward-public-toilet-visits!
And besides being transphobic, it's also ridiculously harmful to cisgendered people too. Where I come from, there's a certain stereotype to some women and sometimes they're described as "emäntä" which is just a common word for "lady of the house". This word can be used to describe a rugged, heavy working (typically middle-aged) woman who's the head of her house, she's the boss. And whenever out of our cultural context, this kind of women are viewed really super masculine for some reason, though usually they're not even "butch", just your more average heterosexual "ma'am". I mean I know a lot of this kind of women, and most of them feel like they get stared at when travelling abroad and using toilets/changing rooms, etc. enough as it is.
I've heard horror stories about men's bathroom but also inside the trans community in my country it's a pretty big consensus that it's safe to use toilets and changing rooms even if you're trans. (This excludes army I have understood...) I mean media even attacked a small swimming hall when they threw out a transgendered woman from the ladies side.
I just, I don't understand the basic reasoning behind this at all, why is it such a big deal? And the penalties are plain ridiculous, it's unreal!
But this could possibly bring upon more unisex toilets.
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Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 3:51 pm
Florida, Minnesota, Texas, and Canada are all combating this right now. Honestly I think that all this is going to do, especially with those that 'pass well', is put a target on our backs for us to get assaulted.
I don't pass all that well and lately I've been getting odd looks from both men and women when I leave the women's room.
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Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:32 am
I am a trans woman who lives in Florida and this bill/law/whatever is so stupid to me. Do conservative groups honestly have any evidence of their claims of transwomen only being in bathrooms to peep on other women ?(OF COURSE NOT)
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Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 9:20 pm
Summer is as faded as a lone cicada call Sometimes I find myself thinking more about the broader topic of going to the bathroom - fun stuff...
On the one hand, it is VITAL that trans people have access to the bathroom that they wish to use. But there's something terrifying about using a public restroom no matter what you do. Especially for someone like me, I still tend to use men's rooms because I so often still look very masculine. But before too much longer, I'll be a lot more androgynous, and it will be a toss-up as to which bathroom will mean the least amount of frustration.
Looking ahead, there's something vital about making more gender-neutral/non-gendered bathrooms. Non-binary and agender people are completely ignored when these discussions come up because it's all in the context of being in the 'wrong gender' bathroom. But for some people, there is no gender. Or they are so split between the forced binary that they just avoid bathrooms altogether.
I pray we'll start to see the conversation widen beyond strictly binary gender stuff. But that's a long, uphill battle, which sucks. Memories so bright I gotta squint just to recall
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Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 6:10 pm
I never intentionally (I have, on multiple occasions, done so by accident) go into multi-stall men's restrooms because I just do not want to deal with any resulting conversations.
I use the women's restroom if it is open, but I have no qualms entering a one-toilet men's room if the women's is occupied.
Again, I would just rather avoid a heated conversation over a bathroom stall.
I think all restrooms need to be open for everyone, if only for the sake of convenience. If it is not considered a fire hazard, maybe stall doors and walls could reach further down to the floor or something.
acidambience brought up the issue of "peepers." In high school, I was peeped at several times by women. By that logic, women should not be allowed in the women's toilets, either.
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