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lymelady
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 2:08 pm


I'd rather be an artificially-nurtured baby than dead. I don't necessarily like the idea, but it would end the argument of viability, because then all unborn children would be viable.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 2:12 pm


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divineseraph
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I really dont like that concept. I'm a naturalist, so it kind of goes against nature in ways. Not only that but If I was "born" that way, I wouldn't feel like a person. But thats just me.
is it not better than simply being thrown into a medical waste bin? i'd rather feel inhuman than be dead. thought defines existance- if you think, you are real, you are alive, and you have a soul. if you are aware of your own awareness, it proves that you exist.


Heres an old pro-choiser addage. Babies and infants, usialy below two years of age, do not understand that they exist. Since they do not know that they exist, or what existence really is, then by your own admission, they are not real.

Because of that philosophy, I have to beleive there is somthign more powerful out side the realm of understanding. IE, a god.
that is a fools way of seeing it- it is kind of a mind trap to prove ones existance and nullify nihilisim. not being aware does not make something nonexistant- trees exist, rocks exist. that is simply a way of proving to oneself that they exist- if they have the intelectual power to wonder wether or not they exist or think, it proves that in fact, they do. one does not need to be aware to exist, but it is a way to prove to oneself that existance is real, i think.


^Philosophy, not fact^

WHat I said also still holds true. If self awarness is the only source of proving ones existence, then you can't say that trees and racosk exist since they are not self aware.

Aswell, self awarness doe snot proove existence, it only prooves you are self aware and know oyu exist. It does not proove your existence to others. Once again, I feel there needs ot be a higher power in order to proove existence.
that's basically what i was getting at, actually- it does not prove existance of anything else, it just proves to yourself that you exist and think.

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