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Queen_EnchantedLuck Captain
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 Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 2:53 am
asbloodrunscold Queen_EnchantedLuck asbloodrunscold Queen_EnchantedLuck asbloodrunscold Queen_EnchantedLuck Ah but Tom Felton plays that villain well. And several others. lolol. But to each our own. Not so much freaks out but acts like an actual human. Some like to cover up their mistakes (some really well like Dexter), some like to betray someone effectively and keep lying even though he knows someone caught onto him (Oz in Wicked). And some are very judgmental and hold a grudge. (Maleficent). Some are even completely crazy. But I like to make them as humanly possible in their reactions and make them make mistakes. I never said Tom Felton wasn't a good actor XD Draco was just annoying, both in movies and books. I certainly see the appeal in the more human villain. I like multiple views of them when they are done well. I don't see ones with dual natures either, ones that goo from totally reasonable, to utterly nuts in moments and flip flops. The only time I have was in Warriors of Virtue! I actually chose not to see Maleficient because I thought it was trying to turn the bad guy into the good guy.
Maleficent was the same as Wicked in my mind and why not see things through the villains point of view. What I don't like is the constant victimizing because it almost cascades an excuse for the things they are trying to do. The Princess had nothing to do with Maleficent when she stated she wanted to kill her at a young age. That is inexcusable and she deserved her punishment which she brought on herself. No matter how she is betrayed, she choose a path to be deranged and should have a consequence. I'm actually not overly fond of Wicked, its good, but not my usual cup to tea. Everything I saw for the movie literally made it seem like she was the hero, even a tragic one and I didn't really like her position. I would have tired to kill her too if she did what she did. If she is the actual villain I'll check it out anyway, because it did look at the very least entertaining. It is sort of interesting to see how a villain believes they have been wronged, but the rationalization has to be on point pretty much otherwise its groan worthy.
I kinda want to write a book based on a villain who thinks she's been wrong and has done a lot of hateful crimes but really she misunderstood something and caused herself and everyone a lot of pain.That sounds interesting, though in my hands it'd totally be a comedy.
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 2:57 am
Queen_EnchantedLuck asbloodrunscold Queen_EnchantedLuck asbloodrunscold Queen_EnchantedLuck
Maleficent was the same as Wicked in my mind and why not see things through the villains point of view. What I don't like is the constant victimizing because it almost cascades an excuse for the things they are trying to do. The Princess had nothing to do with Maleficent when she stated she wanted to kill her at a young age. That is inexcusable and she deserved her punishment which she brought on herself. No matter how she is betrayed, she choose a path to be deranged and should have a consequence. I'm actually not overly fond of Wicked, its good, but not my usual cup to tea. Everything I saw for the movie literally made it seem like she was the hero, even a tragic one and I didn't really like her position. I would have tired to kill her too if she did what she did. If she is the actual villain I'll check it out anyway, because it did look at the very least entertaining. It is sort of interesting to see how a villain believes they have been wronged, but the rationalization has to be on point pretty much otherwise its groan worthy.
I kinda want to write a book based on a villain who thinks she's been wrong and has done a lot of hateful crimes but really she misunderstood something and caused herself and everyone a lot of pain.That sounds interesting, though in my hands it'd totally be a comedy. Haha! Exactly! I probably wouldn't turn my villain into a hero so fast though.
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Queen_EnchantedLuck Captain
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 3:06 am
asbloodrunscold Queen_EnchantedLuck asbloodrunscold Queen_EnchantedLuck asbloodrunscold Queen_EnchantedLuck
Maleficent was the same as Wicked in my mind and why not see things through the villains point of view. What I don't like is the constant victimizing because it almost cascades an excuse for the things they are trying to do. The Princess had nothing to do with Maleficent when she stated she wanted to kill her at a young age. That is inexcusable and she deserved her punishment which she brought on herself. No matter how she is betrayed, she choose a path to be deranged and should have a consequence. I'm actually not overly fond of Wicked, its good, but not my usual cup to tea. Everything I saw for the movie literally made it seem like she was the hero, even a tragic one and I didn't really like her position. I would have tired to kill her too if she did what she did. If she is the actual villain I'll check it out anyway, because it did look at the very least entertaining. It is sort of interesting to see how a villain believes they have been wronged, but the rationalization has to be on point pretty much otherwise its groan worthy.
I kinda want to write a book based on a villain who thinks she's been wrong and has done a lot of hateful crimes but really she misunderstood something and caused herself and everyone a lot of pain.That sounds interesting, though in my hands it'd totally be a comedy. Haha! Exactly! I probably wouldn't turn my villain into a hero so fast though.
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 3:27 am
Queen_EnchantedLuck asbloodrunscold Queen_EnchantedLuck asbloodrunscold Queen_EnchantedLuck
I kinda want to write a book based on a villain who thinks she's been wrong and has done a lot of hateful crimes but really she misunderstood something and caused herself and everyone a lot of pain.That sounds interesting, though in my hands it'd totally be a comedy. Haha! Exactly! I probably wouldn't turn my villain into a hero so fast though. His character and was very fun I will admit XD I love the guy.
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 8:26 am
Would you read a story centered around a villain?
Oh hell yes.
What sort of villain do you like?
One that knows what they're doing is wrong, but doesn't give a F. Or they're too cray cray to care.
Do you think it is wrong to explore the villains view?
Nope. I highly encourage it, because labels are sometimes wrong.
Do you actually know of any stories that do this and do it well?
Death Note is the closet I can think of. It's this fantastic spiral of madness, power, and death.
and the main Character is totally hot
Who said that? whee
Do you think that villains should simply be relegated to being that pure evil force and should never really be explore?
No.
Are you more black and white? Or do you like the grey point?
Gray all the way baby, black and white is just so boring
Do you like Anti-heroes?
Oh Hell yes.
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 3:39 pm
Silenced Nocturne Would you read a story centered around a villain? Oh hell yes. What sort of villain do you like? One that knows what they're doing is wrong, but doesn't give a F. Or they're too cray cray to care. Do you think it is wrong to explore the villains view? Nope. I highly encourage it, because labels are sometimes wrong. Do you actually know of any stories that do this and do it well? Death Note is the closet I can think of. It's this fantastic spiral of madness, power, and death. and the main Character is totally hotWho said that? whee Do you think that villains should simply be relegated to being that pure evil force and should never really be explore? No. Are you more black and white? Or do you like the grey point? Gray all the way baby, black and white is just so boringDo you like Anti-heroes? Oh Hell yes. Haha! I love this, certainly a spirited way to answer. Do you have a favorite Anti-hero?
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 4:33 pm
asbloodrunscold Silenced Nocturne Would you read a story centered around a villain? Oh hell yes. What sort of villain do you like? One that knows what they're doing is wrong, but doesn't give a F. Or they're too cray cray to care. Do you think it is wrong to explore the villains view? Nope. I highly encourage it, because labels are sometimes wrong. Do you actually know of any stories that do this and do it well? Death Note is the closet I can think of. It's this fantastic spiral of madness, power, and death. and the main Character is totally hotWho said that? whee Do you think that villains should simply be relegated to being that pure evil force and should never really be explore? No. Are you more black and white? Or do you like the grey point? Gray all the way baby, black and white is just so boringDo you like Anti-heroes? Oh Hell yes. Haha! I love this, certainly a spirited way to answer. Do you have a favorite Anti-hero? Han Solo. Because he shot first. (Lol) But he is, in my opinion, a far more interesting character than Luke. I mean, he talks to Wookies, is embroiled in the criminal underworld... And went through some major BS he did not sign up for. Just when he thinks it's over, something else happens, and he ended up smack-dab in the middle of a war. And he got the girl! That's pretty impressive for a non-protagonist.
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 4:49 pm
Silenced Nocturne asbloodrunscold Silenced Nocturne Would you read a story centered around a villain? Oh hell yes. What sort of villain do you like? One that knows what they're doing is wrong, but doesn't give a F. Or they're too cray cray to care. Do you think it is wrong to explore the villains view? Nope. I highly encourage it, because labels are sometimes wrong. Do you actually know of any stories that do this and do it well? Death Note is the closet I can think of. It's this fantastic spiral of madness, power, and death. and the main Character is totally hotWho said that? whee Do you think that villains should simply be relegated to being that pure evil force and should never really be explore? No. Are you more black and white? Or do you like the grey point? Gray all the way baby, black and white is just so boringDo you like Anti-heroes? Oh Hell yes. Haha! I love this, certainly a spirited way to answer. Do you have a favorite Anti-hero? Han Solo. Because he shot first. (Lol) But he is, in my opinion, a far more interesting character than Luke. I mean, he talks to Wookies, is embroiled in the criminal underworld... And went through some major BS he did not sign up for. Just when he thinks it's over, something else happens, and he ended up smack-dab in the middle of a war. And he got the girl! That's pretty impressive for a non-protagonist. Yeah Han-solo works XD though I believe in the Star Wars universe mingling with the criminal world is totally allowed though. Still a good pick.
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 5:21 pm
asbloodrunscold Yeah Han-solo works XD though I believe in the Star Wars universe mingling with the criminal world is totally allowed though. Still a good pick. Artemis Fowl is another good one. Much douche-bag, much character development. Have you ever read that series?
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 5:31 pm
Silenced Nocturne asbloodrunscold Yeah Han-solo works XD though I believe in the Star Wars universe mingling with the criminal world is totally allowed though. Still a good pick. Artemis Fowl is another good one. Much douche-bag, much character development. Have you ever read that series? Actually I haven't. I heard it was good though, but I haven't gotten around to reading it.
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 5:56 pm
asbloodrunscold Silenced Nocturne asbloodrunscold Yeah Han-solo works XD though I believe in the Star Wars universe mingling with the criminal world is totally allowed though. Still a good pick. Artemis Fowl is another good one. Much douche-bag, much character development. Have you ever read that series? Actually I haven't. I heard it was good though, but I haven't gotten around to reading it. Excellent reads, Action, comedy, even a bit of Romance towards the end if I'm recalling properly. But the main character's moral compass functionality varies through the series, in the beginning he's quite the cold, calculating little ****, then plot happens. ^ ^ Seriously, go read them.
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 6:59 pm
Silenced Nocturne asbloodrunscold Silenced Nocturne asbloodrunscold Yeah Han-solo works XD though I believe in the Star Wars universe mingling with the criminal world is totally allowed though. Still a good pick. Artemis Fowl is another good one. Much douche-bag, much character development. Have you ever read that series? Actually I haven't. I heard it was good though, but I haven't gotten around to reading it. Excellent reads, Action, comedy, even a bit of Romance towards the end if I'm recalling properly. But the main character's moral compass functionality varies through the series, in the beginning he's quite the cold, calculating little ****, then plot happens. ^ ^ Seriously, go read them. I shall when I get around to them, but I have a ton of books right now.
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:01 pm
I. Love. Villains. They are usually some of the most complex characters that you will find and I adore characters with depth and complexity. Heroes often tend to fall flat in their character background and I say this because Villains usually go through something that drove them to that point. Pain twists and distorts people and they usually encountered a lot of hard sides of life that was the driving force to push them to who they are.
Monsters aren't born. They are made.
I love writing for villains however as far as a book in the villain point of view, I'm not certain I would be really stoked for that. While they are more interesting to me, I view them almost as a puzzle and as they continue to appear more and more in a story, I really enjoy trying to get into their head, know what they are thinking and then discover what drove them to that point. If it's in their point of view I will automatically see their mind set and that takes a way a bit of the fun for me.
Plus I'm a sucker for the struggle of a hero trying to compete with a villain that typically is miles ahead of them in terms of understanding of the world and power. Also I adore the idea of the hero coming to face the fact that villain is not pure evil like they believe and are forced to reevaluate their morals.
All in all, I would give that kind of book a try, certainly, but it probably wouldn't be a the top of my interest. But it certainly is an interesting topic.
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