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 Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 8:52 am
Constructive criticism is more than welcome.
Anyone may post or respond to posts so long as it is done respectfully.
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 9:07 am
I have some criticism!
Feiyimei needs to be appreciated more.
That is all.
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 9:20 am
x-Aaron McLain-x I have some criticism!
Feiyimei needs to be appreciated more.
That is all. I already hold quite a lot of of appreciation for all the things that have been done. Originally this guild was just me and Dash Dancer but then once Feiyimei join the guild it really took off then Ubi Joined XD.
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 9:29 am
As much as I appreciate your appreciation, i was hoping for some feedback related to the training system ninja
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 9:36 am
Feiyimei As much as I appreciate your appreciation, i was hoping for some feedback related to the training system ninja Ahh, Yes I was going to say I think it's good and solid from what I've seen so far. At first I was a bit skeptical about having no limitations for ranks but that changed soon after. I realized that it wouldn't be fair. For example if someone has the higher rank they could just sit there and do nothing while the lower rank could be training daily but not get anywhere near as strong as the seat above them. That's my thoughts I like it so far.
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 9:37 am
Feiyimei As much as I appreciate your appreciation, i was hoping for some feedback related to the training system ninja Less feedback, more question - As Mattrnot was asking in the OOC thread, when they create a custom technique for their character, does their character automatically get it (within reason, obviously - no level 99 custom kido for a person who can use up to level 60), or do they have to go through the training for it? Edit: Second, slightly related question - If a person is stated to simply know up to a point, like Shizuko knows up to level 99 Kido, if it's a public technique, would they automatically know it? I would assume they do, but I just want to confirm.
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 9:39 am
Ubiquitouch Feiyimei As much as I appreciate your appreciation, i was hoping for some feedback related to the training system ninja Less feedback, more question - As Mattrnot was asking in the OOC thread, when they create a custom technique for their character, does their character automatically get it (within reason, obviously - no level 99 custom kido for a person who can use up to level 60), or do they have to go through the training for it? They will need to train for it though the RP can be more about how he created it otherwise, it would be as though a new technique magically appeared in their arsenal. Edit: Yes, they would know it though that is something we will have to fix for new profiles. They will need to list the spells they know.
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 9:44 am
Feiyimei Ubiquitouch Feiyimei As much as I appreciate your appreciation, i was hoping for some feedback related to the training system ninja Less feedback, more question - As Mattrnot was asking in the OOC thread, when they create a custom technique for their character, does their character automatically get it (within reason, obviously - no level 99 custom kido for a person who can use up to level 60), or do they have to go through the training for it? They will need to train for it though the RP can be more about how he created it otherwise, it would be as though a new technique magically appeared in their arsenal. Edit: Yes, they would know it though that is something we will have to fix for new profiles. They will need to list the spells they know. I think it's actually better to, instead of listing every spell they know, they should simply say up to what number they know. Less space is taken up, and it usually serves the same purpose, with an exception of perhaps when someone is not too good at Kido, but focused their effort on one specific kido.
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 9:58 am
Ubiquitouch Feiyimei Ubiquitouch Feiyimei As much as I appreciate your appreciation, i was hoping for some feedback related to the training system ninja Less feedback, more question - As Mattrnot was asking in the OOC thread, when they create a custom technique for their character, does their character automatically get it (within reason, obviously - no level 99 custom kido for a person who can use up to level 60), or do they have to go through the training for it? They will need to train for it though the RP can be more about how he created it otherwise, it would be as though a new technique magically appeared in their arsenal. Edit: Yes, they would know it though that is something we will have to fix for new profiles. They will need to list the spells they know. I think it's actually better to, instead of listing every spell they know, they should simply say up to what number they know. Less space is taken up, and it usually serves the same purpose, with an exception of perhaps when someone is not too good at Kido, but focused their effort on one specific kido. The problem would be when new spells are created. Their character would automatically obtain them without training. If we do that, we will have to come up with a way for characters to increase the range of spells they know.
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 10:01 am
Feiyimei The problem would be when new spells are created. Their character would automatically obtain them without training. If we do that, we will have to come up with a way for characters to increase the range of spells they know. I see where you're coming from, but on the other hand - if a person trained their kido, wouldn't it make sense for them to know the kido under the level of where they're currently at? Like, say we created a new, level 10 kido right now - wouldn't it be weird if someone like Gengyo had to train to know it? I think this is really only an issue for kido, seeing as it is the only combat form with a standardized system - the rest can stay the way we have it right now, but I feel we might need to do something else for Kido, a combination of the two or something.
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 10:03 am
Ubiquitouch I see where you're coming from, but on the other hand - if a person trained their kido, wouldn't it make sense for them to know the kido under the level of where they're currently at? Like, say we created a new, level 10 kido right now - wouldn't it be weird if someone like Gengyo had to train to know it? I think this is really only an issue for kido, seeing as it is the only combat form with a standardized system - the rest can stay the way we have it right now, but I feel we might need to do something else for Kido, a combination of the two or something. The current system states that one needs to learn 1/5 of the kidos of the previous tier (except for 1-20 for obvious reasons) before one can learn spells of a higher level. If that wasn't there, someone can just decide to solo learn spell level 80 and say they know everything up to that point. Edit: Sorry, I have a bad habit of only partially responding to posts. I think the Kido ranks are only present to help classify the spells by strength. I don't think that one needs to unlock all the previous Kido spells to learn the next one. It's not a linear skill tree. I think the same could be said about studies. I'm thinking of Calculus as an example. You may know how to derive functions, but you may not be super well-versed in limits even if they are essentially the same thing. Derivatives can be done just by memorizing shortcuts while limits may explain where the shortcuts come from, people rarely use them by the end of the semester. (I'm speaking from experience. And ironically enough, I got better grades in Calculus 2 then in Calculus 1. and I promise I'm not a freak of nature) We can also see the spells as something that was hidden in textbooks that maybe Gen skimmed through. He could have suddenly noticed them again and decided to learn them. I'm guessing that his specialization is Kido so it should be much easier for him to learn that.
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 10:07 am
Feiyimei Ubiquitouch I see where you're coming from, but on the other hand - if a person trained their kido, wouldn't it make sense for them to know the kido under the level of where they're currently at? Like, say we created a new, level 10 kido right now - wouldn't it be weird if someone like Gengyo had to train to know it? I think this is really only an issue for kido, seeing as it is the only combat form with a standardized system - the rest can stay the way we have it right now, but I feel we might need to do something else for Kido, a combination of the two or something. The current system states that one needs to learn 1/5 of the kidos of the previous tier (except for 1-20 for obvious reasons) before one can learn spells of a higher level. If that wasn't there, someone can just decide to solo learn spell level 80 and say they know everything up to that point. I was sort of arguing the opposite point - shouldn't a person know every previous kido? But either way, you answered my concerns. The system the way you have it would explain why someone wouldn't know every previous kido. Consider my question answered.
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 10:24 am
Feiyimei We can also see the spells as something that was hidden in textbooks that maybe Gen skimmed through. He could have suddenly noticed them again and decided to learn them. I'm guessing that his specialization is Kido so it should be much easier for him to learn that. Alright, while this mostly works for me, it still feels a bit silly that the Kido Corps Captain would not know pretty much every low level kido. However, instead of just complaining, I have brought a proposed solution. You have separated the Kido roughly into tiers: 1-20: Tier 1 21-40: Tier 2 41-60: Tier 3 61-80: Tier 4 81-90: Tier 5 91-99: Tier 6 Now, my proposal is that when you look at a character's highest Kido, find what tier it is in. Then, look three tiers down. It can be safely assumed that the character knows every pre-existing kido from that tier and lower, and only needs to train for new kido for tiers above that. Example: Gengyo knows up to tier 6 (we're ignoring the forbidden kido for this, since this is for standard kido.) Three tiers down is tier 3. We can assume that he knows every kido up to 60, even if it is being added later, provided that it is not a private technique. Anything above 60, that doesn't exist as of right now, he will have to train for. Does that sound reasonable? (I hope that wasn't too convoluted of a system/explanation.)
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 10:26 am
Ubiquitouch Feiyimei We can also see the spells as something that was hidden in textbooks that maybe Gen skimmed through. He could have suddenly noticed them again and decided to learn them. I'm guessing that his specialization is Kido so it should be much easier for him to learn that. Alright, while this mostly works for me, it still feels a bit silly that the Kido Corps Captain would not know pretty much every low level kido. However, instead of just complaining, I have brought a proposed solution. You have separated the Kido roughly into tiers: 1-20: Tier 1 21-40: Tier 2 41-60: Tier 3 61-80: Tier 4 81-90: Tier 5 91-99: Tier 6 Now, my proposal is that when you look at a character's highest Kido, find what tier it is in. Then, look three tiers down. It can be safely assumed that the character knows every pre-existing kido from that tier and lower, and only needs to train for new kido for tiers above that. Example: Gengyo knows up to tier 6 (we're ignoring the forbidden kido for this, since this is for standard kido.) Three tiers down is tier 3. We can assume that he knows every kido up to 60, even if it is being added later, provided that it is not a private technique. Anything above 60, that doesn't exist as of right now, he will have to train for. Does that sound reasonable? (I hope that wasn't too convoluted of a system/explanation.) That works for me. I'll add that in now.
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