Because of the Bible and many Christians, there has been a huge riff that has been torn between homosexuals and Christians. I will not deny where the fault should be laid. Honestly it doesn't affect Christian's that are Man and Wife, so they shouldn't be concerned with Homosexuals. However, people as a whole do not know when they should keep their mouths shut for the greater good. My fellow Christians fall into that category.
I myself is known as a new-time Christian. I believe that Homosexuals will have the equal opportunity of going to Heaven, without having to change who they are. Because if God doesn't judge based on race, I highly doubt he will say, "Whelp, you were married to the wrong gender. I'm sorry I can't allow you into Heaven." Because of this, I see Homosexuals as Equal. I am on a higher scale then most people. I believe they are my equal in every way, shape or form. I believe that they 100% should be able to get married in the Church without discrimination. And I believe in they being treated with respect and dignity, no matter what you believe.
My Pastor recently disrespected my ideals by posting how Marriage between Homosexuals was wrong on Facebook. I reported and deleted him off my Facebook. I felt like my heart had a weight lifted that day. I felt like God was showing me that my Pastors way of thinking was wrong and disrespectful to his people.
So not all Christians fall into the foolish Category of nonacceptance and ignorance. Some of us are actively fighting for homosexuals to be equal in the Church. Even if it means being removed or told to leave, we will still fight. I can't begin, nor do I feel the need to atone for my fellow Christians antics. They dug their hole, they should be the ones to patch it up. But I do ask, that in this argument that you know that not all Christians are against Homosexuality.
Some of us not only respect you, but accept you. We even believe, that God himself, loves you for who you are, doesn't hate you for who you love. Love is Love.
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 11:22 am
As a Christian queer girl, I am highly supportive of the Church promoting gay marriage.
I came from a rather hateful Church. The pastor not only hated homosexuality, he thought women were inferior to men. I did not like this, so I left. I've also been to churches that accept homosexuality fully.
Yes, some Christians can be mean about homosexuality, but I hate having to explain myself. I hate being pushed into that stereotype. What's terrible is when I tell someone (Christian or not) that I am Christian and I like other girls, and they say, "Then you aren't Christian."
Thank you for making this thread. Hopefully this will encourage support from both sides (Christian and LGBT members), as well as those that fall in-between!
As a Christian queer girl, I am highly supportive of the Church promoting gay marriage.
I came from a rather hateful Church. The pastor not only hated homosexuality, he thought women were inferior to men. I did not like this, so I left. I've also been to churches that accept homosexuality fully.
Yes, some Christians can be mean about homosexuality, but I hate having to explain myself. I hate being pushed into that stereotype. What's terrible is when I tell someone (Christian or not) that I am Christian and I like other girls, and they say, "Then you aren't Christian."
Thank you for making this thread. Hopefully this will encourage support from both sides (Christian and LGBT members), as well as those that fall in-between!
No problem Chromo. I hate having to explain myself too. I hope that we can support a chain reaction to help Christian's understand that everyone is equal. Hopefully there are some equal minded here in the Guild. If you believe in Jesus, I don't see how they could say to you, then your not a real Christian. You are God's child. You are Christian. Loving girls included.
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 12:28 pm
I have been fortunate enough to see the otherside of the Christian spectrum. All of my friends who are christian support Gay rights. :3 Although my family does not share the belief unfortunately. >.>
I have been fortunate enough to see the otherside of the Christian spectrum. All of my friends who are christian support Gay rights. :3 Although my family does not share the belief unfortunately. >.>
Neither does my family and they are not even Christian. They keep yelling "God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve." I told them if they don't believe in the religion they shouldn't comment on it. Plus they are a straight couple. What does gay marriage have to do with them. Sorry. I have bad blood between myself, my dad and my step mom.
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 1:50 pm
I've had a hard time explaining that I'm both Catholic, and a gay rights supporter. There seems to be a mentality around here that it's either one or the other...
I dunno. I just think it's the right thing to do. Just because someone likes their partners differently than I do, doesn't mean that they're wrong. Or less somehow. People are people, no matter who they love.
I've had a hard time explaining that I'm both Catholic, and a gay rights supporter. There seems to be a mentality around here that it's either one or the other...
I dunno. I just think it's the right thing to do. Just because someone likes their partners differently than I do, doesn't mean that they're wrong. Or less somehow. People are people, no matter who they love.
Here, here! :3
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 2:25 am
Queen_EnchantedLuck
Christians VS Homosexuality Argument
Because of the Bible and many Christians, there has been a huge riff that has been torn between homosexuals and Christians. I will not deny where the fault should be laid. Honestly it doesn't affect Christian's that are Man and Wife, so they shouldn't be concerned with Homosexuals. However, people as a whole do not know when they should keep their mouths shut for the greater good. My fellow Christians fall into that category.
I myself is known as a new-time Christian. I believe that Homosexuals will have the equal opportunity of going to Heaven, without having to change who they are. Because if God doesn't judge based on race, I highly doubt he will say, "Whelp, you were married to the wrong gender. I'm sorry I can't allow you into Heaven." Because of this, I see Homosexuals as Equal. I am on a higher scale then most people. I believe they are my equal in every way, shape or form. I believe that they 100% should be able to get married in the Church without discrimination. And I believe in they being treated with respect and dignity, no matter what you believe.
My Pastor recently disrespected my ideals by posting how Marriage between Homosexuals was wrong on Facebook. I reported and deleted him off my Facebook. I felt like my heart had a weight lifted that day. I felt like God was showing me that my Pastors way of thinking was wrong and disrespectful to his people.
So not all Christians fall into the foolish Category of nonacceptance and ignorance. Some of us are actively fighting for homosexuals to be equal in the Church. Even if it means being removed or told to leave, we will still fight. I can't begin, nor do I feel the need to atone for my fellow Christians antics. They dug their hole, they should be the ones to patch it up. But I do ask, that in this argument that you know that not all Christians are against Homosexuality.
Some of us not only respect you, but accept you. We even believe, that God himself, loves you for who you are, doesn't hate you for who you love. Love is Love.
Luck,
This is very well written and I hope that it inspires people to give this issue serious thought. I happen to be Catholic and I believe that everyone should be treated equal. At my Catholic church last year my priest set up a series of workshops to help people who were Gay, Lesbian, and other life styles. The purpose of the workshops was to welcome these special people into the church and let them know that their was a place for them. I personally helped out one trans person join the church choir. Anytime someone made a fuss I would stick up for her and comfort her. She was surprised and grateful. When my very religious choir director made a fuss I referred him to a passage in the bible. One of my favorite parables is the one where Jesus is eating at a table with a prosititute, tax collector, and other sinners. Jesus felt comfortable being with these people and treats all people with respect. So if Jesus respects everyone no matter who they are why can't we follow his example and do the same.
That is so amazing! Thank you for being there for her. You never know - your kindness may have brought her closer to God, and it may have helped her realize that she will be accepted by some people, and that there are indeed a growing number of Christians that accept the LGBT community. smile
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 8:35 am
smithers456
Queen_EnchantedLuck
Christians VS Homosexuality Argument
Because of the Bible and many Christians, there has been a huge riff that has been torn between homosexuals and Christians. I will not deny where the fault should be laid. Honestly it doesn't affect Christian's that are Man and Wife, so they shouldn't be concerned with Homosexuals. However, people as a whole do not know when they should keep their mouths shut for the greater good. My fellow Christians fall into that category.
I myself is known as a new-time Christian. I believe that Homosexuals will have the equal opportunity of going to Heaven, without having to change who they are. Because if God doesn't judge based on race, I highly doubt he will say, "Whelp, you were married to the wrong gender. I'm sorry I can't allow you into Heaven." Because of this, I see Homosexuals as Equal. I am on a higher scale then most people. I believe they are my equal in every way, shape or form. I believe that they 100% should be able to get married in the Church without discrimination. And I believe in they being treated with respect and dignity, no matter what you believe.
My Pastor recently disrespected my ideals by posting how Marriage between Homosexuals was wrong on Facebook. I reported and deleted him off my Facebook. I felt like my heart had a weight lifted that day. I felt like God was showing me that my Pastors way of thinking was wrong and disrespectful to his people.
So not all Christians fall into the foolish Category of nonacceptance and ignorance. Some of us are actively fighting for homosexuals to be equal in the Church. Even if it means being removed or told to leave, we will still fight. I can't begin, nor do I feel the need to atone for my fellow Christians antics. They dug their hole, they should be the ones to patch it up. But I do ask, that in this argument that you know that not all Christians are against Homosexuality.
Some of us not only respect you, but accept you. We even believe, that God himself, loves you for who you are, doesn't hate you for who you love. Love is Love.
Luck,
This is very well written and I hope that it inspires people to give this issue serious thought. I happen to be Catholic and I believe that everyone should be treated equal. At my Catholic church last year my priest set up a series of workshops to help people who were Gay, Lesbian, and other life styles. The purpose of the workshops was to welcome these special people into the church and let them know that their was a place for them. I personally helped out one trans person join the church choir. Anytime someone made a fuss I would stick up for her and comfort her. She was surprised and grateful. When my very religious choir director made a fuss I referred him to a passage in the bible. One of my favorite parables is the one where Jesus is eating at a table with a prosititute, tax collector, and other sinners. Jesus felt comfortable being with these people and treats all people with respect. So if Jesus respects everyone no matter who they are why can't we follow his example and do the same.
That is fantastic to hear and true. Jesus often met with sinners, dined with them and treated them no different than his own disciples. I'm glad that you've stuck up for her and that your church welcomes Gays and helps them. I'm currently looking for a church nearby that accepts gays after my recent church posted disgusting hate speech on my facebook. I'm glad to see Christians and Catholics fighting for equality in the church.
Because of the Bible and many Christians, there has been a huge riff that has been torn between homosexuals and Christians. I will not deny where the fault should be laid. Honestly it doesn't affect Christian's that are Man and Wife, so they shouldn't be concerned with Homosexuals. However, people as a whole do not know when they should keep their mouths shut for the greater good. My fellow Christians fall into that category.
I myself is known as a new-time Christian. I believe that Homosexuals will have the equal opportunity of going to Heaven, without having to change who they are. Because if God doesn't judge based on race, I highly doubt he will say, "Whelp, you were married to the wrong gender. I'm sorry I can't allow you into Heaven." Because of this, I see Homosexuals as Equal. I am on a higher scale then most people. I believe they are my equal in every way, shape or form. I believe that they 100% should be able to get married in the Church without discrimination. And I believe in they being treated with respect and dignity, no matter what you believe.
My Pastor recently disrespected my ideals by posting how Marriage between Homosexuals was wrong on Facebook. I reported and deleted him off my Facebook. I felt like my heart had a weight lifted that day. I felt like God was showing me that my Pastors way of thinking was wrong and disrespectful to his people.
So not all Christians fall into the foolish Category of nonacceptance and ignorance. Some of us are actively fighting for homosexuals to be equal in the Church. Even if it means being removed or told to leave, we will still fight. I can't begin, nor do I feel the need to atone for my fellow Christians antics. They dug their hole, they should be the ones to patch it up. But I do ask, that in this argument that you know that not all Christians are against Homosexuality.
Some of us not only respect you, but accept you. We even believe, that God himself, loves you for who you are, doesn't hate you for who you love. Love is Love.
Luck,
This is very well written and I hope that it inspires people to give this issue serious thought. I happen to be Catholic and I believe that everyone should be treated equal. At my Catholic church last year my priest set up a series of workshops to help people who were Gay, Lesbian, and other life styles. The purpose of the workshops was to welcome these special people into the church and let them know that their was a place for them. I personally helped out one trans person join the church choir. Anytime someone made a fuss I would stick up for her and comfort her. She was surprised and grateful. When my very religious choir director made a fuss I referred him to a passage in the bible. One of my favorite parables is the one where Jesus is eating at a table with a prosititute, tax collector, and other sinners. Jesus felt comfortable being with these people and treats all people with respect. So if Jesus respects everyone no matter who they are why can't we follow his example and do the same.
Well as a fellow gay christian myself while my church isn't exactly against them many of the members beleive that it is a sin. Being the only gay person there is hard. Its made me very bitter at times. To the point that I would see some of my friends views on it and the only conclusion reached was that I was gonna burn for love. With that cherry thought to keep me company its a wonder I haven't been depressed.
Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:24 pm
I'm Catholic. It has a slightly different turn to it.
Because of the Bible and many Christians, there has been a huge riff that has been torn between homosexuals and Christians. I will not deny where the fault should be laid. Honestly it doesn't affect Christian's that are Man and Wife, so they shouldn't be concerned with Homosexuals. However, people as a whole do not know when they should keep their mouths shut for the greater good. My fellow Christians fall into that category.
I myself is known as a new-time Christian. I believe that Homosexuals will have the equal opportunity of going to Heaven, without having to change who they are. Because if God doesn't judge based on race, I highly doubt he will say, "Whelp, you were married to the wrong gender. I'm sorry I can't allow you into Heaven." Because of this, I see Homosexuals as Equal. I am on a higher scale then most people. I believe they are my equal in every way, shape or form. I believe that they 100% should be able to get married in the Church without discrimination. And I believe in they being treated with respect and dignity, no matter what you believe.
My Pastor recently disrespected my ideals by posting how Marriage between Homosexuals was wrong on Facebook. I reported and deleted him off my Facebook. I felt like my heart had a weight lifted that day. I felt like God was showing me that my Pastors way of thinking was wrong and disrespectful to his people.
So not all Christians fall into the foolish Category of nonacceptance and ignorance. Some of us are actively fighting for homosexuals to be equal in the Church. Even if it means being removed or told to leave, we will still fight. I can't begin, nor do I feel the need to atone for my fellow Christians antics. They dug their hole, they should be the ones to patch it up. But I do ask, that in this argument that you know that not all Christians are against Homosexuality.
Some of us not only respect you, but accept you. We even believe, that God himself, loves you for who you are, doesn't hate you for who you love. Love is Love.
Luck,
This is very well written and I hope that it inspires people to give this issue serious thought. I happen to be Catholic and I believe that everyone should be treated equal. At my Catholic church last year my priest set up a series of workshops to help people who were Gay, Lesbian, and other life styles. The purpose of the workshops was to welcome these special people into the church and let them know that their was a place for them. I personally helped out one trans person join the church choir. Anytime someone made a fuss I would stick up for her and comfort her. She was surprised and grateful. When my very religious choir director made a fuss I referred him to a passage in the bible. One of my favorite parables is the one where Jesus is eating at a table with a prosititute, tax collector, and other sinners. Jesus felt comfortable being with these people and treats all people with respect. So if Jesus respects everyone no matter who they are why can't we follow his example and do the same.
Well as a fellow gay christian myself while my church isn't exactly against them many of the members believe that it is a sin. Being the only gay person there is hard. Its made me very bitter at times. To the point that I would see some of my friends views on it and the only conclusion reached was that I was gonna burn for love. With that cherry thought to keep me company its a wonder I haven't been depressed.
Dear Elementalists,
I grew up in a strict household where my mother would tell me many times about the sins of others and that they would be judged for them. She went to Catholic school growing up and was taught what was right and wrong according to the views of the catholic church of that time.
Over the years after I left home due to my life experiences I became stronger in my faith, found friends who thought the same way that I did, and I came to respect people for whoever they are. I don't discriminate against people for any reason no matter what their life style is, their gender, religion, profession or lack of, race, etc.
You don't need friends that are very judgmental. One of Gods gifts is free will. You are free to live your life the way that you want to. If people think wrong of your life style that is their problem and not yours. I suggest that you try to find a church that is more accepting of people in general. Pray hard for guidance and truly feel in your heart that you will find a way through these times. I wish you well and know that things will be better in the future. I noticed that people on this guild truly care for others no matter what their situation is. I happen to be one of them.
