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 Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 12:13 pm
Funkcarla8 Yes fair point but if a saint was celebrated in a country for something even though that saint hadn't even stepped foot in that country should they by celebrated? (does that make sense?) ~
Yeah it does make sense, but Wales is not far from Ireland, at all and it certaintly wasn't difficult to travel between.
Also there is much uncertainty as to where he was born. He may have been born in Dunbarton, Scotland, Cumberland, England, or in northern Wales. He called himself both a Roman and a Briton.
Your point is still moot because he did go to Ireland anyway.
~ Patron Saint Index, Saint Patrick profile Kidnapped from the British mainland around age 16, and shipped to Ireland as a slave. Sent to the mountains as a shepherd, he spent his time in prayer. After six years of this life, he received had a dream in which he a command to return to Britain; seeing it as a sign, he escaped. Studied in continental monasteries. Priest. Bishop. Sent by Pope Saint Celestine to evangelize England, then Ireland, during which his chariot driver was Saint Odran, and Saint Jarlath was one of his spiritual students. In 33 years he effectively converted the Ireland [sic]. In the Middle Ages Ireland became known as the Land of Saints, and during the Dark Ages its monasteries were the great repositories of learning in Europe, all a consequence of Patrick's ministry.
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Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 6:04 am
CutieDemonEd Does anyone know what St. Patricks day is really about? Well I actually went and looked it up and am now not feeling too pleased. Here were the finding results. Guess I won't be wearing green Friday, I don't care how many times I get pinched! This is a holiday to celebrate national pride. The flag colours are orange, green and white. The holiday, originally, was used to celebrate the day St. Patrick drove all the snakes out of Ireland, snakes which used to be the pagan symbol. You see, Patrick - or Maewyn (his real name) - was a christian (catholic) priest and he saught to drive paganism out of Ireland and make it a more christian place.
In those days - there were only catholics so strictly speaking St. Patricks day is a catholic holiday. But it's now celebrated by everyone and is used to display Irish pride.
So if you were pinched for not wearing green on St. Patricks day, it usually symbolizes that that person is pagan, or of the pagan religion.
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 1:24 pm
St. Patty's is my favorite holiday behind Holloween. I love green so any excuse to wear a lot is fine by me.
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 6:43 pm
Just because it was a long time ago doesn't mean that we should disregard it.
The Holocaust was quite a while ago, but we don't need to forget about that.
I mean, we shouldn't hold a grudge against the Catholics for tyring to stamp us out, but I'm not going to celebrate a holiday that praises the man that sought to drive pagans away.
Just because it's lost most of it's meaning doesn't mean that you can ignore why it's really there.
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:06 pm
that's messed up big time.
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Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 8:19 pm
On St. Patrics Day mt mom and I have these necklace things we wear with Snakes on it and if people ask why..I tell them...
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Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 9:35 am
That is interesting...my favorite color is green, and I have quite a few Irish friends, so this doesn't really affect me all that much. I mean, between us, it isn't worth losing friendship over. I have Catholic, Christian and Wiccan friends, and we all like each other for who we are; we don't stop being friends because of our differing religions. So, even though this may be true, I won't stop wearing green on St. Patrick's Day (even though I'm not Irish). smile
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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:06 pm
I grew up loving Saint Patrick's Day. I was a Catholic, but am now recovering. My middle name is Patrick, my father's name is Patrick, and my mother's name is Patricia. The day has always been a big thing in my family.
I have been pagan for a while now and this saddening fact was one of the first things that I learned. It upsets me, but what can you do. I party alongside the other people, but do not celebrate the holiday. I spread the word and wear shirts that say, "Ireland was better off Pagan!" or "Bring back the Snakes." hehe. They make me happy.
Goat
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