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Metal Wallflower

PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 3:57 pm


For those of you that know me, you may have noticed that I've been using some hebraic terminology lately. Don't worry. This isn't some fangirl thing or cult. But, with most things that I dive into when I study, I get into the basic cultures and history. Even the language, for better understanding. Doesn't mean anything. I probably know no more than I did yesterday, and doesn't make me 'all that'. But I do want every nuance of His Word, and have a strong desire to do His Will. Again, doesn't mean I know a lot. Just that sometimes the words I use seem to encompass more meaning. Like the word 'aloha' has several different meanings, depending on the context. Well, learning more about the Master's life here on earth, the greek and western mindset just doesn't fully describe His situation all the time. And, why would it? He wasn't greek, after all. lol
I no longer hyper-focus on the blood and the cross, because my Savior LIVES. Not knocking what He went through. But still... enough said.
You'll also find that I'm quite attached to the Sacred Names. While I follow the Sacred Namers no more than I follow any other group, I've known about them since I was a child. But, as other thing, no one could seem to tell me about them for whatever reason.
I worship as often as possible, but Sabbath is now on saturday. I've found too much scriptural evidence to support that too.
Christmas and Easter, and in fact most of the holidays that I used to with my children, I've long since lost interest in. Save for things like the 4th of July, and Memorial Day. The Feast Days are commanded by Yah though, and I have no problem with partying in His Name for an entire WEEK. Considering a very few other holidays for my family to adjust to my current state, as long as they're not against Yah's Word. Purim might be ok... My son and grandson might like it (see the book of Esther. Not commanded, but in scripture), as well as Hanukkah sometimes (again, not commanded, so not used as replacement therapy. But ok sometimes, as long as it doesn't take from Yah, i guess...).
So, if my posts seem... a little odd... if you have questions, just ask! My profile is closed, for reasons of my own. Not because of myself (though it used to be), but for the protection of others. If you're not comfortable with posting your thoughts or questions here, feel free to PM me. smile
Time for the evening worship. I just can't seem to ignore that shofar blast anymore. lol
Yahweh bless you each.
~MW
PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 7:38 pm


This was very informative, especially to someone like myself who gets freaked out when people use other names for God our Heavenly Father, and names for His Son Christ Jesus, or for the Holy Ghost or Holy Spirit; but then again; that is the way that I was raised and the only names by which I know to call them by being raised in a Southern Baptist home and church family.

I am sure that what you say is the truth if I go and look it up on the p/c in the Jewish/Hebrewic Bible, The Torah.

But I will not tell a lie. It will take some time to get use to the idea of hearing such, and not a problem because I am small minded or even close minded to it, but simply because of a life time of conditioning that makes these things seem, and pardon the term, weird to me hearing them used.

But keep an open mind yes?!?!?!?

You're brother in Christ Jesus,
T.S.K.
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Metal Wallflower

PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 8:01 pm


The Scottish Knight
This was very informative, especially to someone like myself who gets freaked out when people use other names for God our Heavenly Father, and names for His Son Christ Jesus, or for the Holy Ghost or Holy Spirit; but then again; that is the way that I was raised and the only names by which I know to call them by being raised in a Southern Baptist home and church family.

I am sure that what you say is the truth if I go and look it up on the p/c in the Jewish/Hebrewic Bible, The Torah.

But I will not tell a lie. It will take some time to get use to the idea of hearing such, and not a problem because I am small minded or even close minded to it, but simply because of a life time of conditioning that makes these things seem, and pardon the term, weird to me hearing them used.

But keep an open mind yes?!?!?!?

You're brother in Christ Jesus,
T.S.K.
Sir A.D.3


Not here to change yer religion, brother. lol And it is a lot to swallow. That's over 2000 years of social/religious conditioning to overcome. But its there, for those who seek Him when He calls. Either way, He knows your heart. And that's the main thing. smile
The Names have been there up until the last century or so, when many Christian bible publishers decided to take Them out. Most of the versions we know had at least YHWH, Adonai, Elohim, and El. Some versions, like the American Standard, still have this explanation in the preface. The Jewish religions try not to use the Name of Yahweh much out of respect for His Qodesh nature, and don't even address Yahushua much. Hence the spelling G-d. The Father wanted us to know His Name though, otherwise He wouldn't have given it to Moses. lol
Its ok to test what I say though. And pray about it. We should. Iron sharpens iron, right?
There are many ways to pronounce the Names, however, and I'm still praying about this. But its more than I had.
~MW
PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:41 pm


I though that all of what you type was insightful as to the diction that you use and found it all to be very helpful in communicating. There are some through out this site that do not have the ability to understand or even want to try and understand what is being said by a person of you're belief.
You're brother in Christ;
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Metal Wallflower

PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:38 pm


The Hudson Hawk
I though that all of what you type was insightful as to the diction that you use and found it all to be very helpful in communicating. There are some through out this site that do not have the ability to understand or even want to try and understand what is being said by a person of you're belief.
You're brother in Christ;
The Hawk-Philip.


Many won't, brother. And we can't expect it. Though I admit, even though the excitement should have worn off by now, my zeal can still get away from me and I can't figure out 'why people don't want to know the Truth!' But it doesn't take long for me to remember that there were, and are, many truths that I would stand behind. While I'll guard His Word to the best of my ability, I have to remember that there are many who stick to what they're used to. Doesn't always mean they love the Father any less. And He'll see this, because He knows our hearts. Its up to us to listen when He calls. We can only plant the seed. Some others might water it. But Yahweh takes care of the rest. The Father doesn't want lip service, or people forced into serving Him. He wants to know we actually care to be there. And no amount of bible thumping/torah bashing/witch hunting is going to lead a person willingly ANYWHERE. Except maybe to drive them away. Which is unacceptable.
Thank you, brother.
~MW
PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:41 pm


Metal Wallflower
The Hudson Hawk
I though that all of what you type was insightful as to the diction that you use and found it all to be very helpful in communicating. There are some through out this site that do not have the ability to understand or even want to try and understand what is being said by a person of you're belief.
You're brother in Christ;
The Hawk-Philip.


Many won't, brother. And we can't expect it. Though I admit, even though the excitement should have worn off by now, my zeal can still get away from me and I can't figure out 'why people don't want to know the Truth!' But it doesn't take long for me to remember that there were, and are, many truths that I would stand behind. While I'll guard His Word to the best of my ability, I have to remember that there are many who stick to what they're used to. Doesn't always mean they love the Father any less. And He'll see this, because He knows our hearts. Its up to us to listen when He calls. We can only plant the seed. Some others might water it. But Yahweh takes care of the rest. The Father doesn't want lip service, or people forced into serving Him. He wants to know we actually care to be there. And no amount of bible thumping/torah bashing/witch hunting is going to lead a person willingly ANYWHERE. Except maybe to drive them away. Which is unacceptable.
Thank you, brother.
~MW


That is what the apostle Paul said. Look it up if you like.

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Metal Wallflower

PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:51 pm


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Metal Wallflower
The Hudson Hawk
I though that all of what you type was insightful as to the diction that you use and found it all to be very helpful in communicating. There are some through out this site that do not have the ability to understand or even want to try and understand what is being said by a person of you're belief.
You're brother in Christ;
The Hawk-Philip.


Many won't, brother. And we can't expect it. Though I admit, even though the excitement should have worn off by now, my zeal can still get away from me and I can't figure out 'why people don't want to know the Truth!' But it doesn't take long for me to remember that there were, and are, many truths that I would stand behind. While I'll guard His Word to the best of my ability, I have to remember that there are many who stick to what they're used to. Doesn't always mean they love the Father any less. And He'll see this, because He knows our hearts. Its up to us to listen when He calls. We can only plant the seed. Some others might water it. But Yahweh takes care of the rest. The Father doesn't want lip service, or people forced into serving Him. He wants to know we actually care to be there. And no amount of bible thumping/torah bashing/witch hunting is going to lead a person willingly ANYWHERE. Except maybe to drive them away. Which is unacceptable.
Thank you, brother.
~MW


That is what the apostle Paul said. Look it up if you like.


Exactly. He also said we couldn't expect the gentiles/nations/new believers to follow Torah completely, not knowing it fully. But for a few things. Not sure that most people know that. But he also pointed out something in the OT, found in several places: that Yah writes His Word on our hearts. Many people find they are living the gospel/Torah/Word/following the Way, because they were hearing the father. And listening...
PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 6:37 pm


So you are what they call a messieanic new wave Christian then right Sis?
That is what they call themselves right? Please correct me if I'm wrong here.
I hate to be calling someone a messy Christian, but then again when ya think about it and according to the book of Romans chapter 3 verse 23~ we are all messes right?!?
But he verse says "All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" ~Romans 3:23.

So yeah even after we've been saved we still sin and fall short which does
make us all 'Messie Christians' in a way, yes?!?!?

Christian huggles Sis,
~Lyn~
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Metal Wallflower

PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 4:17 pm


Woodlyn Fairee
So you are what they call a messieanic new wave Christian then right Sis?
That is what they call themselves right? Please correct me if I'm wrong here.
I hate to be calling someone a messy Christian, but then again when ya think about it and according to the book of Romans chapter 3 verse 23~ we are all messes right?!?
But he verse says "All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" ~Romans 3:23.

So yeah even after we've been saved we still sin and fall short which does
make us all 'Messie Christians' in a way, yes?!?!?

Christian huggles Sis,
~Lyn~
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lol Very true, sis. Regarding the verses. But if we look back in the Torah and the Prophets, we'll find that there were very few even before Yahshua that weren't a mess. The entire bible is chock full of stories that show that our relationship with Yah, either as a church/assembly/congregation/etc or as individuals, has not exactly been perfect. But the Father has been trying to teach us just how to treat each other and Himself from the time of our eviction from the garden. But if there were any that could be labeled 'messianic jews', we could also fit the apostles in that category. After all, before any doctrine, it just meant those who followed Christ Messiah. Nothing 'new wave' about that. lol In fact, there's an ancient symbol said to have been a mark of any of the Master's taught ones/disciples - ever seen the David's star with the cross and fish? Still praying on that, but their's a lot of scriptural and historical evidence. In many judaic-christian writings.
As for me, completely non-denominational. All I know is I'm another child of Yah, and I love Him more than anything. If I appear to be christian at all, its only because I follow Yahushua Messiah the best I can. If I appear to be jewish, its only because I follow the precepts the best I can. If I appear to be anything in between, even messianic jew or hebrew roots, its because I try to guard His commandments through the love of His Son the best I can. If I appear to love Israel, its because I know I love and want to be part of the church/congregation/assembly/body of Messiah that the Father is showing me, and will serve and protect it. Like all of you, and the people I meet in this world in Him that He sends me to or brings my way (not Israel as in politics, religion, etc, or anything of man). We are one in Yahweh's eyes, one in Yahshua's love. And can't we say that about any of us? smile
Sorry, not sure how else to explain it, sis. (hugs)
~MW
PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:41 pm


Ye, I've been playing in the forums again. I don't know why... rolleyes But I feel the urge to do so. Deplorable as it is. It only winds me up, and if I'm not paying attention to the Father, I only make a mess of things. But I though the following post might... help? I don't know...


Quote:
(Another User)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_(deity)#Hebrew_Bible
If Adam and Eve were created by the elohim, and Baal and Yahweh are the sons of El, are people in the Abrahamic religions worshiping the right god?


First off, I think we need to clarify your question. For one thing, most of these are titles and labels. Ba'al actually means 'lord', Moloch is king, El and Elohim are Mighty one (singular and plural form), like God, Comforter, Creator, etc. Just titles. Yahweh is one of the ways people tend to pronounce His real Name, describes in the Tetragrammaton (YHWH, or יְהֹוָה), means I AM, or I AM THAT I AM.
This is nearly explained in your link, in a round about way.
As far as being a polytheist religion, He is the One and Only God. At least the only entity that I'll call one, and He prefers it that way. The hebrew language is so full of idioms and such that you might as well stick to explaining it away in whatever 'scientific' format you can find. You won't even come close. Not by a long shot.

Quote:
The Hebrew form (אל) appears in Latin letters in Standard Hebrew transcription as El and in Tiberian Hebrew transcription as ʾĒl.

El is a generic word for God that could be used for any God including Baal, Moloch,[20] or Yahweh.


I pray that I made better sense than this link...
Yahweh bless each of you. smile
~MW

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