Thinking back on what you said, I was wondering if two color changes would be best. 1-adding the blue from the sky with maybe some of the green which would be used to cover the saturated green, or 2-the green that is above the house (plain looking one) would that be better to use to take out the saturated green?
Since green is the predominant color, I'd actually dull down the background and midground with subtle amounts of red (adding complimentary colors always grays the original color). I'd also work in a little blue into other areas of the image, either in the deepest shadows or at the edges of the highlights. Or, if you'd rather not, you might add a little green to the sky so that the hue is not so isolated. It's really all about the mood you want your color palette to convey. c:
These are really just personal suggestions on how to integrate the colors into the entire painting, though, and you can totally disregard them if you wish; my main critique would be that the colors are too separated atm. It's a very lovely painting, though; just keep working at it and I'm sure it will turn out really nicely!
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:26 am
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Yea you pretty much nailed the colours I've already started using haha! ^-^. And thank you for your critics and comments I'll see how I can integrate that to my image : )
Thinking back on what you said, I was wondering if two color changes would be best. 1-adding the blue from the sky with maybe some of the green which would be used to cover the saturated green, or 2-the green that is above the house (plain looking one) would that be better to use to take out the saturated green?
Since green is the predominant color, I'd actually dull down the background and midground with subtle amounts of red (adding complimentary colors always grays the original color). I'd also work in a little blue into other areas of the image, either in the deepest shadows or at the edges of the highlights. Or, if you'd rather not, you might add a little green to the sky so that the hue is not so isolated. It's really all about the mood you want your color palette to convey. c:
These are really just personal suggestions on how to integrate the colors into the entire painting, though, and you can totally disregard them if you wish; my main critique would be that the colors are too separated atm. It's a very lovely painting, though; just keep working at it and I'm sure it will turn out really nicely!
No, I totally appreciate your critique, it gives me a better idea on what to do. 3nodding
Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 5:05 pm
ah no post this week, to bad : (. Maybe next week : )!
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Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 5:10 pm
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Yea you pretty much nailed the colours I've already started using haha! ^-^. And thank you for your critics and comments I'll see how I can integrate that to my image : )
Awesome! I'm excited to see the final image! c:
unfortunately I need to hold off on the drawing right now : ( my wrist is developing a kind of pain from drawing in the same position all the time, and I need to give it a break for it to heal. (which is proving difficult since drawing is part of my job XD but hopefully it will get better soon : )
Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 5:49 pm
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ah no post this week, to bad : (. Maybe next week : )!
Question: do we absolutely have to post on Saturdays, or could we just post any day of the week. It would be a lot easier for me that way, I hate deadlines and such and I would be able to post more works if we could just post them as soon as they were done.
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Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 7:36 pm
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Question: do we absolutely have to post on Saturdays, or could we just post any day of the week. It would be a lot easier for me that way, I hate deadlines and such and I would be able to post more works if we could just post them as soon as they were done.
hmm yes I understand the dilemma. Alright you may post when ever your ready : )
Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 11:58 pm
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Question: do we absolutely have to post on Saturdays, or could we just post any day of the week. It would be a lot easier for me that way, I hate deadlines and such and I would be able to post more works if we could just post them as soon as they were done.
hmm yes I understand the dilemma. Alright you may post when ever your ready : )
Thanks, that will make it a lot easier for me. ^__^
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Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:30 pm
Alright, here's what I got first. What do you guys think? Anything I could improve on?
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 5:15 pm
yes I do! : ) but I would like to provide some red lines to help. I'll try to post that friday though, because my hand is still hurting and needs to rest at the moment. But I have a couple of ideas on how you could improve the anatomy, and the hair movement. Beautiful details in the cloths by the way : ) I also love the choice of colours! did a great job!
Ok I'll post more soon! : )
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 2:18 pm
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Alright sorry I couldn't get around to it Friday, but I managed to get a quick whip done to help explain : )
Now as I was saying I think something that could help improve this images is anatomy. And as I was drawing the red lines to explain, I notice that it wasn't so much anatomy then it was a proper weight distribution. So I'm going to go straight to the point and say over all your anatomy is pretty good, its just the legs that would need a little more work, because of the posing they took makes them look slightly broken or impossible to bend in that direction. But other than that, your hands are lovely, and you even got some details under the armpit fairly accurate. : )
Ok so the main issue is more weight distribution. Your character is in a fairly dynamic pose, but her center of gravity is off. See when we bend down to the grown like that, your body has a tendency to lean or shift more to one side than an other. Specially if one of your extremities are far away, your torso will shift to the leg closer to your center of gravity (when I say center of gravity I mean your hips. Womens centers of gravity is generally in are our hips, mens is more around the shoulders)
So say one of your hands points outwards while so does the other foot. Your body would need to shift its weight to its other leg and arm to stabilize, other wise you'd fall flat on your face. So how does it do this? It does this by bringing the arm and leg closer to its center of gravity, and will fold the body in such a way that it can gain as much stability as possible (see reference pic)
I wasn't sure if you wanted your foot to point outwards or inwards so I drew both. So when your in a position like this your outside leg will be more straight because it offers a better balance for the body who's shifting its weight onto one side. I also drew some blue lines, the blue lines represent the direction the weight should be distributed. Its kinda like a pencil balancing in the middle on your finger. If you raise one arm the other will go down. It won't go down enormously, but will shift a little and its important to be continuous aware of this while drawing, to understand better how the other arm would need to be drawn, to compensate for the shift in weight. Same thing for the waist. In your case you'll notice I've highlighted in purple the way you drew your weight distribution. Both shoulders and waist are parallel, when really her weight should be shifting somewhere just to be able to bend down to the grown like that, if she didn't she would fall down. If you where to bring her leg closer to her torso you would give her a stronger support for bending down and holding that position, her arm would need to toss as well, to help stabilize the position even more. Her back would need to curve and twist slightly to keep an upper body in this position looking forward.
Hope this helps : )
Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:41 pm
Kai_Chi
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Alright sorry I couldn't get around to it Friday, but I managed to get a quick whip done to help explain : )
Now as I was saying I think something that could help improve this images is anatomy. And as I was drawing the red lines to explain, I notice that it wasn't so much anatomy then it was a proper weight distribution. So I'm going to go straight to the point and say over all your anatomy is pretty good, its just the legs that would need a little more work, because of the posing they took makes them look slightly broken or impossible to bend in that direction. But other than that, your hands are lovely, and you even got some details under the armpit fairly accurate. : )
Ok so the main issue is more weight distribution. Your character is in a fairly dynamic pose, but her center of gravity is off. See when we bend down to the grown like that, your body has a tendency to lean or shift more to one side than an other. Specially if one of your extremities are far away, your torso will shift to the leg closer to your center of gravity (when I say center of gravity I mean your hips. Womens centers of gravity is generally in are our hips, mens is more around the shoulders)
So say one of your hands points outwards while so does the other foot. Your body would need to shift its weight to its other leg and arm to stabilize, other wise you'd fall flat on your face. So how does it do this? It does this by bringing the arm and leg closer to its center of gravity, and will fold the body in such a way that it can gain as much stability as possible (see reference pic)
I wasn't sure if you wanted your foot to point outwards or inwards so I drew both. So when your in a position like this your outside leg will be more straight because it offers a better balance for the body who's shifting its weight onto one side. I also drew some blue lines, the blue lines represent the direction the weight should be distributed. Its kinda like a pencil balancing in the middle on your finger. If you raise one arm the other will go down. It won't go down enormously, but will shift a little and its important to be continuous aware of this while drawing, to understand better how the other arm would need to be drawn, to compensate for the shift in weight. Same thing for the waist. In your case you'll notice I've highlighted in purple the way you drew your weight distribution. Both shoulders and waist are parallel, when really her weight should be shifting somewhere just to be able to bend down to the grown like that, if she didn't she would fall down. If you where to bring her leg closer to her torso you would give her a stronger support for bending down and holding that position, her arm would need to toss as well, to help stabilize the position even more. Her back would need to curve and twist slightly to keep an upper body in this position looking forward.
Hope this helps : )
That makes tons of sense. I was trying to make it balanced when I drew it but I was focusing less on physics and more on the balance of the picture itself, not the pose. Does that make any sense? Plus, you are thinking far more three-dimensionaly and I was thinking too two-dimensionaly. Your pose has far more depth to it than mine. This is super helpful. I was thinking that I wasn't going to redo this one even if I got some good pointers on how to fix it up better, but after seeing this I really want to re-try the pose again. I may not do the exact same character and everything, but I'm definitely going to take your advice on the pose and balancing it. Thanks for this, it's really helpful.
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Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 8:39 am
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Thanks for this, it's really helpful.
really glade I could help : )! And glade to hear you'll try this again, even if it will be a new character. I'm sure the next one will be marvelous ^-^!!!
