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 Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:03 pm
Yukari Clepsydra Jarel Damone [M]a.r.t.s Actually, I'm on Angel's side on this one. Back when we all started, we were not as aware of the mental environment and storytelling, not even its impact on the match. We all had those "one sentence" posts and, let's be honest, you don't need more than that in certain situations. In this one, I see an opening match with no background story, so to me, less storytelling is acceptable. Doesn't make it extremely interesting to read, but still acceptable. Of course, it would be better with some enhanced psychology added, but the potential is there. We can't expect a high school student to write and Ph.D thesis, just like we can't expect someone debuting to get all the little aspects that makes this game fun for you and the others. In French, we have this expression saying "laissez la chance au coureur", let the runner have a chance. If one of us was willing to have a match with them, maybe they would implement those elements in their game and find their own style through it. i also agree. none of us, chrono included, was the best rper in the world when we debuted and all of us took time to improve one way or another. So I wouldn't be so harsh on the new people. if they went this long of a match without godmoding, even if they used a bunch of one liners, it shows potential. give them the right opponent and perhaps they will evolve to be able to tell a story in their matches. you cannot expect newcomers to automatically get the idea of storytelling in their matches just because you have grown used to the older or veteran characters in the community. as Marxx said, maybe if one of the vets is willing to work with them, they'll learn those elements you say the community is currently lacking Well, you're currently not doing a thing.. Why don't YOU work with them... Maybe we'll get a few more Litas, and HBKs and Undertakers around.... Not that we need them, because everyone and their mother does the Super kick BBBUUURRRNNN. Please apply water to burn.
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Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:21 pm
Yukari Clepsydra Jarel Damone [M]a.r.t.s Actually, I'm on Angel's side on this one. Back when we all started, we were not as aware of the mental environment and storytelling, not even its impact on the match. We all had those "one sentence" posts and, let's be honest, you don't need more than that in certain situations. In this one, I see an opening match with no background story, so to me, less storytelling is acceptable. Doesn't make it extremely interesting to read, but still acceptable. Of course, it would be better with some enhanced psychology added, but the potential is there. We can't expect a high school student to write and Ph.D thesis, just like we can't expect someone debuting to get all the little aspects that makes this game fun for you and the others. In French, we have this expression saying "laissez la chance au coureur", let the runner have a chance. If one of us was willing to have a match with them, maybe they would implement those elements in their game and find their own style through it. i also agree. none of us, chrono included, was the best rper in the world when we debuted and all of us took time to improve one way or another. So I wouldn't be so harsh on the new people. if they went this long of a match without godmoding, even if they used a bunch of one liners, it shows potential. give them the right opponent and perhaps they will evolve to be able to tell a story in their matches. you cannot expect newcomers to automatically get the idea of storytelling in their matches just because you have grown used to the older or veteran characters in the community. as Marxx said, maybe if one of the vets is willing to work with them, they'll learn those elements you say the community is currently lacking Well, you're currently not doing a thing.. Why don't YOU work with them... Maybe we'll get a few more Litas, and HBKs and Undertakers around.... Not that we need them, because everyone and their mother does the Super kick i'm not currently active. and you say this as if i have never worked with new folks. Technically, i've worked with a lot of them, and not all of them good and not all of them worth working with that were good. if i were active, i'd have no problem working with a new person that doesn't godmode and just has to learn how to build and tell a story. if i could get stuck working with Kalos and buckey for years and if i could survive working with that paul harris guy, i can survive with guys who are doing one liners but otherwise not doing wrong. frankly, your not so subtle shot there holds no weight being that any newer folks i've worked with have always come up with their own gimmicks in their own time. so unless they're already one of those three, it's unlikely they'd turn into them. last i checked, no one was saying anything about their characters yet, it was about the work in the match.
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Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:35 pm
And after my retirement match I won't be around to 'do' matches, doesn't mean I'm not going to be apart of the community helping others.
What 'I'm' getting at is rather than agreeing and making comments about 'maybe if one of the vets is willing to work with them...'
Then why don't 'you' do it, because you're a 'vet' right?
And out of those people you listed? Bucky isn't around, Paul Harris isn't around, and Kal?
He's getting blacklisted from even X2W...
You don't have to be 'active' to offer advice, since when is that stop you? Or anyone?
We 'all' offer 'advice' on how WWE can be 'better' and yet, they're making money, we're not, we're not 'active' in their 'universe' wrestling.
So...
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Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:40 pm
Jarel Damone Yukari Clepsydra Jarel Damone [M]a.r.t.s Actually, I'm on Angel's side on this one. Back when we all started, we were not as aware of the mental environment and storytelling, not even its impact on the match. We all had those "one sentence" posts and, let's be honest, you don't need more than that in certain situations. In this one, I see an opening match with no background story, so to me, less storytelling is acceptable. Doesn't make it extremely interesting to read, but still acceptable. Of course, it would be better with some enhanced psychology added, but the potential is there. We can't expect a high school student to write and Ph.D thesis, just like we can't expect someone debuting to get all the little aspects that makes this game fun for you and the others. In French, we have this expression saying "laissez la chance au coureur", let the runner have a chance. If one of us was willing to have a match with them, maybe they would implement those elements in their game and find their own style through it. i also agree. none of us, chrono included, was the best rper in the world when we debuted and all of us took time to improve one way or another. So I wouldn't be so harsh on the new people. if they went this long of a match without godmoding, even if they used a bunch of one liners, it shows potential. give them the right opponent and perhaps they will evolve to be able to tell a story in their matches. you cannot expect newcomers to automatically get the idea of storytelling in their matches just because you have grown used to the older or veteran characters in the community. as Marxx said, maybe if one of the vets is willing to work with them, they'll learn those elements you say the community is currently lacking Well, you're currently not doing a thing.. Why don't YOU work with them... Maybe we'll get a few more Litas, and HBKs and Undertakers around.... Not that we need them, because everyone and their mother does the Super kick i'm not currently active. and you say this as if i have never worked with new folks. Technically, i've worked with a lot of them, and not all of them good and not all of them worth working with that were good. if i were active, i'd have no problem working with a new person that doesn't godmode and just has to learn how to build and tell a story. if i could get stuck working with Kalos and buckey for years and if i could survive working with that paul harris guy, i can survive with guys who are doing one liners but otherwise not doing wrong. frankly, your not so subtle shot there holds no weight being that any newer folks i've worked with have always come up with their own gimmicks in their own time. so unless they're already one of those three, it's unlikely they'd turn into them. last i checked, no one was saying anything about their characters yet, it was about the work in the match. So...you'll work with a newbie...if they don't do newbie things...gotcha.
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Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:52 pm
Actually my first feud when I first started was with jarel. And it was enjoyable, even though at the time I wasn't so great.It kind of gave me a push to try and improve, because I had a reason to make good detailed posts and try my best on promos.
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Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:57 pm
Dion Necurat Jarel Damone Yukari Clepsydra Jarel Damone [M]a.r.t.s Actually, I'm on Angel's side on this one. Back when we all started, we were not as aware of the mental environment and storytelling, not even its impact on the match. We all had those "one sentence" posts and, let's be honest, you don't need more than that in certain situations. In this one, I see an opening match with no background story, so to me, less storytelling is acceptable. Doesn't make it extremely interesting to read, but still acceptable. Of course, it would be better with some enhanced psychology added, but the potential is there. We can't expect a high school student to write and Ph.D thesis, just like we can't expect someone debuting to get all the little aspects that makes this game fun for you and the others. In French, we have this expression saying "laissez la chance au coureur", let the runner have a chance. If one of us was willing to have a match with them, maybe they would implement those elements in their game and find their own style through it. i also agree. none of us, chrono included, was the best rper in the world when we debuted and all of us took time to improve one way or another. So I wouldn't be so harsh on the new people. if they went this long of a match without godmoding, even if they used a bunch of one liners, it shows potential. give them the right opponent and perhaps they will evolve to be able to tell a story in their matches. you cannot expect newcomers to automatically get the idea of storytelling in their matches just because you have grown used to the older or veteran characters in the community. as Marxx said, maybe if one of the vets is willing to work with them, they'll learn those elements you say the community is currently lacking Well, you're currently not doing a thing.. Why don't YOU work with them... Maybe we'll get a few more Litas, and HBKs and Undertakers around.... Not that we need them, because everyone and their mother does the Super kick i'm not currently active. and you say this as if i have never worked with new folks. Technically, i've worked with a lot of them, and not all of them good and not all of them worth working with that were good. if i were active, i'd have no problem working with a new person that doesn't godmode and just has to learn how to build and tell a story. if i could get stuck working with Kalos and buckey for years and if i could survive working with that paul harris guy, i can survive with guys who are doing one liners but otherwise not doing wrong. frankly, your not so subtle shot there holds no weight being that any newer folks i've worked with have always come up with their own gimmicks in their own time. so unless they're already one of those three, it's unlikely they'd turn into them. last i checked, no one was saying anything about their characters yet, it was about the work in the match. So...you'll work with a newbie...if they don't do newbie things...gotcha. I...uh, Wow, this was so not supposed to explode into an argument. People, All I was saying is we have light showing through at the end of the tunnel. These two are not the only new guys with promise, and while their match may lack certain aspects that vets possess..such as the storytelling and the long drawn out posts they have potential. And I have done the Superkick since day one...XD and I'm proud of it. rofl
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Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:58 pm
0o-The_Angel-o0 Dion Necurat Jarel Damone Yukari Clepsydra Jarel Damone [M]a.r.t.s Actually, I'm on Angel's side on this one. Back when we all started, we were not as aware of the mental environment and storytelling, not even its impact on the match. We all had those "one sentence" posts and, let's be honest, you don't need more than that in certain situations. In this one, I see an opening match with no background story, so to me, less storytelling is acceptable. Doesn't make it extremely interesting to read, but still acceptable. Of course, it would be better with some enhanced psychology added, but the potential is there. We can't expect a high school student to write and Ph.D thesis, just like we can't expect someone debuting to get all the little aspects that makes this game fun for you and the others. In French, we have this expression saying "laissez la chance au coureur", let the runner have a chance. If one of us was willing to have a match with them, maybe they would implement those elements in their game and find their own style through it. i also agree. none of us, chrono included, was the best rper in the world when we debuted and all of us took time to improve one way or another. So I wouldn't be so harsh on the new people. if they went this long of a match without godmoding, even if they used a bunch of one liners, it shows potential. give them the right opponent and perhaps they will evolve to be able to tell a story in their matches. you cannot expect newcomers to automatically get the idea of storytelling in their matches just because you have grown used to the older or veteran characters in the community. as Marxx said, maybe if one of the vets is willing to work with them, they'll learn those elements you say the community is currently lacking Well, you're currently not doing a thing.. Why don't YOU work with them... Maybe we'll get a few more Litas, and HBKs and Undertakers around.... Not that we need them, because everyone and their mother does the Super kick i'm not currently active. and you say this as if i have never worked with new folks. Technically, i've worked with a lot of them, and not all of them good and not all of them worth working with that were good. if i were active, i'd have no problem working with a new person that doesn't godmode and just has to learn how to build and tell a story. if i could get stuck working with Kalos and buckey for years and if i could survive working with that paul harris guy, i can survive with guys who are doing one liners but otherwise not doing wrong. frankly, your not so subtle shot there holds no weight being that any newer folks i've worked with have always come up with their own gimmicks in their own time. so unless they're already one of those three, it's unlikely they'd turn into them. last i checked, no one was saying anything about their characters yet, it was about the work in the match. So...you'll work with a newbie...if they don't do newbie things...gotcha. I...uh, Wow, this was so not supposed to explode into an argument. People, All I was saying is we have light showing through at the end of the tunnel. These two are not the only new guys with promise, and while their match may lack certain aspects that vets possess..such as the storytelling and the long drawn out posts they have potential. And I have done the Superkick since day one...XD and I'm proud of it. rofl ...I didn't make this an argument. So cool your s**t.
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Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:59 pm
Dion Necurat 0o-The_Angel-o0 Dion Necurat Jarel Damone Yukari Clepsydra Well, you're currently not doing a thing.. Why don't YOU work with them... Maybe we'll get a few more Litas, and HBKs and Undertakers around.... Not that we need them, because everyone and their mother does the Super kick i'm not currently active. and you say this as if i have never worked with new folks. Technically, i've worked with a lot of them, and not all of them good and not all of them worth working with that were good. if i were active, i'd have no problem working with a new person that doesn't godmode and just has to learn how to build and tell a story. if i could get stuck working with Kalos and buckey for years and if i could survive working with that paul harris guy, i can survive with guys who are doing one liners but otherwise not doing wrong. frankly, your not so subtle shot there holds no weight being that any newer folks i've worked with have always come up with their own gimmicks in their own time. so unless they're already one of those three, it's unlikely they'd turn into them. last i checked, no one was saying anything about their characters yet, it was about the work in the match. So...you'll work with a newbie...if they don't do newbie things...gotcha. I...uh, Wow, this was so not supposed to explode into an argument. People, All I was saying is we have light showing through at the end of the tunnel. These two are not the only new guys with promise, and while their match may lack certain aspects that vets possess..such as the storytelling and the long drawn out posts they have potential. And I have done the Superkick since day one...XD and I'm proud of it. rofl ...I didn't make this an argument. So cool your s**t. I'm cool..plus I didn't mean to quote you sweatdrop
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