In addition, just to let you know, I'm at Chapter 15 at the moment, so don't spoil much to me about Valider in the future chapters to me. However, the topic is related toward him.
So if you beat the chapter or still want to discuss despite spoiling, please put your discussion in spoilers tag so we can avoid spoiling it to those who haven't play or do not wish to be spoiled. Thank you.
Anyway, onto the topic:
When Chapter 13 introduces us that Valider is the Avatar's father (even though I've already knew that due to checking Fire Emblem wiki. >>; ), it makes me want to do a bit of research. What kind of research you ask?
Why, I compare Valider with Nergal since they have lots of things in common. Here is the list of how they are VERY similar:
I would include Ashnard in for being the father; however, I don't see anything else to compare with Valider and Nergal. So seeing as how much similar these two Dark users have, there is one thing that makes them different.
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Valider KNOWS who his child is and doesn't give a crud about it while Nergal DOESN'T knows who his children is (it's hard to decide if he doesn't care or not. >>; )
Therefore, this makes Valider the most horrible father between the two. Valider knows his child was taken from him when he's trying to use the Avatar as the sacrifice for the Fell Dragon. And after years passes, he spotted his child during the assassination (Although I still can't figure out how does he know what his child will look like after so many years pass. I wasn't sure if the Avatar was taken as a child or baby. But if baby, how the heck?) Once he knows where the Avatar is, he's trying to have his child join him to his side and tries to use the Avatar to his plot to resurrect the Fell Dragon (Can someone say that this sounds like Darth Vader from Star Wars? >>; ) and not give a care about his child's feelings and safety.
Now we know Nergal is the father of Ninian and Nils due to doing the sidequest chapters. But is he the same as Valider? No, because Nergal was corrupted by the dark magic. Therefore, he forgot who are his children as well as his original reason to open the Dragon Gate. And even though he manipulated Ninian to open the Dragon Gate and using her against Eliwood, Nergal wasn't aware that she is his daughter.
So let's say that Nergal was not fully corrupted by the dark magic and that he recognizes his children, will he be the same as Valider? I will say this. If Nergal is in his corrupted persona that we all know him so well, then yes, he will do the same as Valider did. But if Nergal is in his original persona (the one where he send his children away), then no, he will be crying to have his children back and we won't have the other half of the Fire Emblem storyplot.
So what do you guys think?
Do you think Nergal and Valider are very similar to each other?
Who do you think is the most terrible father between the two?
Do you agree with what I'm saying?
What do you think Nergal will do if he does recognize his children just like how Valider does?
Why, I compare Valider with Nergal since they have lots of things in common. Here is the list of how they are VERY similar:
- They're both Dark users.
They both sired children who in the army against them.
They both control the strong organization from behind. (Valider controlling the Pheglia country while Nergal with Black Fangs.)
They both create their own army. (Risen for Valider, Morphs for Nergal)
They try to use their children into their plot.
I would include Ashnard in for being the father; however, I don't see anything else to compare with Valider and Nergal. So seeing as how much similar these two Dark users have, there is one thing that makes them different.
.....
....
Valider KNOWS who his child is and doesn't give a crud about it while Nergal DOESN'T knows who his children is (it's hard to decide if he doesn't care or not. >>; )
Therefore, this makes Valider the most horrible father between the two. Valider knows his child was taken from him when he's trying to use the Avatar as the sacrifice for the Fell Dragon. And after years passes, he spotted his child during the assassination (Although I still can't figure out how does he know what his child will look like after so many years pass. I wasn't sure if the Avatar was taken as a child or baby. But if baby, how the heck?) Once he knows where the Avatar is, he's trying to have his child join him to his side and tries to use the Avatar to his plot to resurrect the Fell Dragon (Can someone say that this sounds like Darth Vader from Star Wars? >>; ) and not give a care about his child's feelings and safety.
Now we know Nergal is the father of Ninian and Nils due to doing the sidequest chapters. But is he the same as Valider? No, because Nergal was corrupted by the dark magic. Therefore, he forgot who are his children as well as his original reason to open the Dragon Gate. And even though he manipulated Ninian to open the Dragon Gate and using her against Eliwood, Nergal wasn't aware that she is his daughter.
So let's say that Nergal was not fully corrupted by the dark magic and that he recognizes his children, will he be the same as Valider? I will say this. If Nergal is in his corrupted persona that we all know him so well, then yes, he will do the same as Valider did. But if Nergal is in his original persona (the one where he send his children away), then no, he will be crying to have his children back and we won't have the other half of the Fire Emblem storyplot.
So what do you guys think?
Do you think Nergal and Valider are very similar to each other?
Who do you think is the most terrible father between the two?
Do you agree with what I'm saying?
What do you think Nergal will do if he does recognize his children just like how Valider does?