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 Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 10:53 pm
Despite its location in the Debate and Discussion subforum, this isn't an appropriate thread to discuss whether homosexuality is "okay/biblical/Christian/acceptable" or not. We've provided a thread for those discussions for you. Please adhere- there's a good reason we have one thread for you to debate that to your heart's content. I'll likely delete futher posts in this thread that continue in that vein.
Luthos of the MoonClan, I personally found your post to be disrespectful on a variety of levels. Please try to be less inflammatory and offensive in the future, if you can help it.
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Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 4:17 am
I'm sorry you've been treated bad. Funny thing is Jesus never once mentioned gay people either way. They obviously weren't very important to him and his mission either way. He doesn't say you're going to hell or anything like that and Jesus is the head of the church so I wouldn't worry.
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Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 4:19 am
Yes. I don't like labels either because it limits you to what you have to be. I used to have a problem with labels musically and what direction I want to go with my music and it really stressed me out a lot and now I don't worry about it and just give that to God and things worked out. So don't worry about labels so much and you'll be okay. Just be yourself! heart Grayed Yuvawrius I'm not trying to do that. @_@ Lables honestly were the last thing in mind. Even better. heart
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Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 4:22 am
I'm so tired of people saying "oh it's Satan's fault!" for this or that. Sorry but only you have control over your own self. Satan nor God or anybody else whether your mom or dad don't have control over yourself. Only you do. Blaming Satan is a easy way out. God doesn't tell you it's wrong. Jesus is God right? He NEVER mentioned gay people either way. So gay people weren't very important to his missionary and we know from Sodom and Gamora that gay people existed back then and have forever. Sessal A cretain explanation to why homosexuality was wrong really lit things up for me at my church. Please understand tha t I do not want anyone to be offended by this.
Homosexual questioning is a temptation that the devil sends. We all have had it. Some stronger than others. You see, when you are hit with these kind of temptations, you really look at Christianity in a different light because the world tells you it's fine, but God tells you it's wrong.
In my opinion, it's a curse. The devil, like God can see past, present, and future, he knows no time. Purhaps he sees the most destructive path for you, and leads you to it? Purhaps he sees the children you could have and influence/bring to Christ in the future?
I'm not going to say all these things about homosexuality being okay, but I am also not gong to say that it is a sexual perversion or anything like that .
It's just a thing Satan tempts us with, curses us with, and we can not defeat it without God.
And all God's children said Amen.
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Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 4:23 am
If you know the future you can change it through the present. aznkiddie Sessal A cretain explanation to why homosexuality was wrong really lit things up for me at my church. Please understand tha t I do not want anyone to be offended by this.
Homosexual questioning is a temptation that the devil sends. We all have had it. Some stronger than others. You see, when you are hit with these kind of temptations, you really look at Christianity in a different light because the world tells you it's fine, but God tells you it's wrong.
In my opinion, it's a curse. The devil, like God can see past, present, and future, he knows no time. Purhaps he sees the most destructive path for you, and leads you to it? Purhaps he sees the children you could have and influence/bring to Christ in the future?
I'm not going to say all these things about homosexuality being okay, but I am also not gong to say that it is a sexual perversion or anything like that .
It's just a thing Satan tempts us with, curses us with, and we can not defeat it without God.
And all God's children said Amen. I don't know think that Satan can see the past, present, and future. If he did, then how come he would attempt to wage war with God at the end if he knows he's going to lose?
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Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 4:24 am
Even though Jesus never talked about gay people either way. rolleyes I seem to remember only Paul talked about gay people. Luthos of the MoonClan I'll say this once and only once. You'll probably be offended by this, so no one send me hate mail or anything: Homosexuality is wrong! These people here are trying to coddle you. "You don't have to fit a label.", or "It's just fine." Or "Pastors will tell you homosexuality is fine, so it's O.K!". To an extent this is right. Except for the last thing. Those pastors are morons. Actually, only the first thing is sort of right. You don't have to fit a label. Certain labels. Homosexuality is completely abnormal! God made us with strange bodies, and urges, but those urges are tests! Tests of faithfulness! I believe Pornography or any sort of stripper, hooker, or sex outside of marriage is wrong, too! Most of us fall soemtime or another, but God still forgives! But back on subject! Homosexuality is abnormal! It only appeared((generally)) in pagan societies! Early followers of God, not Jesus, weren't gay! God made us in His own image! Can you see Him having gay sex?! If you can, you have a sick mind. Oh, yeah. You're wrong about the whole "Most of us have a gay encounter." That's just stupid.
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Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 4:26 am
I agree with everything except Jesus never talked about gay people either way. From what I remember only Paul talked about gay people. Eye_seE Luthos of the MoonClan I'll say this once and only once. You'll probably be offended by this, so no one send me hate mail or anything: Homosexuality is wrong!. You do have a right to your opinion but so do other people. If your going to make these kinds of arguments you best be prepared to suffer for it. Though I'll try to keep this polite heart Quote: These people here are trying to coddle you. "You don't have to fit a label.", or "It's just fine." Or "Pastors will tell you homosexuality is fine, so it's O.K!". To an extent this is right. Except for the last thing. Those pastors are morons. Well its nice of you to make vast statements against whole branches of the christian faith, as to their being "morons." You might disagre with them but that dosent make them morons. You will need to provide some evidence that they are in fact morons or else we must assume they are in fact not morons. Quote: Actually, only the first thing is sort of right. You don't have to fit a label. Certain labels. Homosexuality is completely abnormal! God made us with strange bodies, I must admit im confused by your opinion on what is normal. Gays are abnormal, but so is the human bodie? Homosexuality is refered to as a minority normality. Its reocurrence across all cultures and belifes, and its appearence in the god created animal kingdom, point towards a normality occuring only a minority of the time. Quote: and urges, but those urges are tests! Tests of faithfulness! I believe Pornography or any sort of stripper, hooker, or sex outside of marriage is wrong, too! Well you see, homosexuality and everything you just listed have one majour diference. Jesus told us they are wrong cuase they are lust filled activities. Gay relationships within the confines of marriage under god, are built upon love, not lust. And love is a god thing as far as jesus goes. Quote: Most of us fall soemtime or another, but God still forgives! Everyone is fallen say but Jesus. Quote: But back on subject! Homosexuality is abnormal! It only appeared((generally)) in pagan societies! Early followers of God, not Jesus, weren't gay! I think I pointed out that homsexuality is current in all past and present factions of human society. That includes early jewish and christian faith groups. Some evidence even points out that early christians may of have a friendly relationship with homsexuality, and some early popes are counted as gay(though this is contested so im not going to argue this). So its not just pagans. Quote: God made us in His own image! Can you see Him having gay sex?! If you can, you have a sick mind. Many other faiths protray god as having homosexual relations and I wouldent count them all as sick. But in christianity, god is generaly not protrayed as having any sexual relations with humans. Unless you count his relationship with the church. So when god made us in his image, that dont dosent mean were perfect copies cuase god dosent have sex. well maby he does, it wouldent be a good idea to presume anything bout god. Quote: Oh, yeah. You're wrong about the whole "Most of us have a gay encounter." That's just stupid Here I agree. That would be like saying Ive had a stright encounter. Aint ever happened. Some people migh have moments of confusion but not everyone does.
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Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 4:28 am
How do you know God hates homosexuality marriages etc? Jesus, God in the flesh, never talked about gay people. And if he did I'm sure the Catholic Church and those who put the Protestant Bible together would have put it in there if he did. Spartan1989 Homosexuality is wrong once again and it is not right to encourage it but you shouldnever call anyone "morons" for their beliefs, cause many people call us the same thing. I highly disagree with the U.C.C (United Church of Christ) because they accept homosexual marriages. God hates HOMOSEXUALITY not homosexuals.
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Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 8:16 am
LittlePinky82 How do you know God hates homosexuality marriages etc? Jesus, God in the flesh, never talked about gay people. And if he did I'm sure the Catholic Church and those who put the Protestant Bible together would have put it in there if he did. Spartan1989 Homosexuality is wrong once again and it is not right to encourage it but you shouldnever call anyone "morons" for their beliefs, cause many people call us the same thing. I highly disagree with the U.C.C (United Church of Christ) because they accept homosexual marriages. God hates HOMOSEXUALITY not homosexuals. Why would God destroy sodom and gommorah? Quote: Homosexuality is also referred to as the sin of sodomy. This reference comes from an account in the Bible of two exceedingly wicked cities, Sodom and Gomorrah, which the Lord destroyed. Sodom was known for its rampant homosexuality and unrestrained sexual lust, as well as other sins such as arrogance, haughtiness, and disregard for the poor. When the Lord sent angels to warn Lot who lived in the city that it was about to be destroyed, the men of the city actually wanted to rape the angels! Genesis 13:13: "But the men of Sodom were wicked and sinners before the LORD exceedingly." And read Roamans 1 It talks about women abandoning natural relations for un-natural ones and Men burning in lust for each other 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (NIV): "Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters, nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God." (Without accepting Christ of course) Leviticus 20:13: "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them." God hates sin and Homosexuality is a sin.
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Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 12:53 pm
LittlePinky82 How do you know God hates homosexuality marriages etc? Jesus, God in the flesh, never talked about gay people. And if he did I'm sure the Catholic Church and those who put the Protestant Bible together would have put it in there if he did. Think it this way... Since Jesus is God, therefore Jesus spoke against homosexual acts in the Old Testament. Simple theology. As for Same-sex marriage, God created the gift of marriage, which He himself establishes. It is clearly spoken in the Bible that marriage is for heterosexuals so; a same-sex union would not be established because it is not recognized. Same-sex marriage is a man-made creation and idea.
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Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 10:56 pm
Sorry to lock your thread, Yuvawrius. People still don't know how to respect the rules or each other. I'll be PMing people their warnings.
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