Facey (1:30:59 AM): Oh yeah OTL I had something to discuss about that xD; A potential semi-solution to the RP itch for current owners. It's still kind of a rough idea, though; it could go a lot of ways xD; I talked to Biki about it, we were thinking that maybe it would be kinda cool to have like... current owners can have, in the quest area, an "Event" Lunarian; someone they can break out for designated events/official ORPs etc; not that they will ever receive it as a full Lunarian, given our 1-only rule, and any RP done with that character could not count towards growth reqs at all, but it would allow a sanctioned way to scratch the itch which wouldn't overly detract from people's focus on their actual Lunarian, since they can't play it outside of events, and we control how frequent the Event-Lunarian excursions turn out to be? We could even go so far as to say that it's like a ticket: 1 ticket for an event-lunarian, once you use your ticket you cannot get another, you cannot make a new one, you cannot get rid of the old one + make a new etc
Facey (1:31:07 AM): to keep people from constantly making new quests.
Facey (1:31:16 AM): you can limit it to certain stages too if you wanted to
Facey (1:31:23 AM): anyway, idk xD maybe something to consider now that we're being less strict about quests
Facey (1:31:49 AM): *my paragraph took too long, so "something to discuss about that =/= anything to do with the Van sentence xD; )
Koishi (1:32:33 AM): hmm
Koishi (1:32:48 AM): well initially I was thinking that the RP itch for staff would just be like
Koishi (1:32:51 AM): RPing NPCs
Koishi (1:33:25 AM): it does a bit complicated to extend it to the rest of the shop, though, I will say that much right away xD;
Koishi (1:34:10 AM): and is not super relevant to shop needs YET
Koishi (1:34:15 AM): so keep the idea for later?
Koishi (1:34:43 AM): *it does seem
Facey (1:34:50 AM): I guess, but we're only able to RP NPCs in certain situations, and they are not... really ours OTL we just borrow them?
Koishi (1:34:51 AM): sorry my typing tonight is whack xD;
Facey (1:34:54 AM): but okay
Koishi (1:35:34 AM): I guess it's just right now I don't see much of a demand for it or a need other than a couple people's gratification xD;
Koishi (1:36:31 AM): to have enough secondary lunarians to have an event with them
Koishi (1:36:41 AM): would require a much more active shop base now
Facey (1:36:47 AM): ? to have an event with them o_o
Facey (1:36:49 AM): maybe I'm not uh
Facey (1:36:53 AM): expressing this well? but it's more like
Koishi (1:36:58 AM): like orp-only?
Facey (1:37:13 AM): I guess? OTL It was just to limit it to special occasions
Facey (1:37:17 AM): so our guild doesn't become flooded with
Facey (1:37:20 AM): MORE quest rp
Facey (1:37:41 AM): and the idea was that in case people become... temporarily like
Facey (1:37:44 AM): sick of RPing the same lunarian
Facey (1:37:46 AM): instead of leaving
Facey (1:37:49 AM): they can work on a concept
Facey (1:37:55 AM): that they won't expect to have made real
Facey (1:38:05 AM): / they can't bring everywhere all teh time instead of RPing their normal lunarian?
Facey (1:38:10 AM): but ideally it would help burnout
Facey (1:38:19 AM): and it wouldn't prove to be a drain on artists ever
Koishi (1:38:29 AM): ah
Koishi (1:38:39 AM): I guess for me it's more logical to outsource that kind of itch
Koishi (1:38:39 AM): xD
Facey (1:38:49 AM): you can do that, you're the boss? OTL
Facey (1:38:59 AM): but you said yourself that you took to RPing ALL the NPCs? D:
Koishi (1:39:05 AM): no as in like when I'm burnt out I like
Koishi (1:39:10 AM): go RP something completely different
Koishi (1:39:11 AM): world and all
Facey (1:39:15 AM): yeah, which would mean
Facey (1:39:17 AM): no activity in Lunarian
Facey (1:39:19 AM): *Lunaria
Facey (1:39:23 AM): if everyone is gone RPing elsewhere
Koishi (1:39:25 AM): I don't see it as the shop's responsibility to take care of it
Koishi (1:39:39 AM): and I don't think it's a problem for that many people
Facey (1:39:41 AM): it's not a responsibility, it's like putting more toys in the toybox to encourage people to stay in the room, but ok
Facey (1:39:51 AM): really? x_x we end up with huge lags and people keep... killing their lunarians
Koishi (1:40:10 AM): I don't think it was burnout
Koishi (1:40:15 AM): there were lots of reasons people left
Koishi (1:40:20 AM): most of them not burnout related xD;
Koishi (1:40:51 AM): and the past year, well, character inactivity I mostly attributed to shop inactivity
Facey (1:41:35 AM): Okay, I'll present this to Biki OTL perhaps we can come up with a better solution B/
Facey (1:41:36 AM): *.
Koishi (1:42:08 AM): at the moment I think it's just us up top who are experiencing the most burnout xD;
Koishi (1:42:14 AM): but yeah, think about it, sell it again to me laters
Facey (1:42:23 AM): it's not just the people up top ._.
Facey (1:42:27 AM): it's some of the people I still speak to >.<
Facey (1:42:30 AM): but alright OTL
Facey (1:42:45 AM): I feel like if you were able to get an actual opinion from people it would not ... say that no one is interested OTL
Koishi (1:44:04 AM): well obviously I would need to be aware of those opinions xD;
Facey (1:44:17 AM): I'll ask them to tell you themselves razz
Facey (1:44:30 AM): hopefully they'll work up to it eventually
Koishi (1:44:35 AM): sounds good
Koishi (1:44:39 AM): I hope I'm not like
Koishi (1:44:41 AM): scary to people o.0
Facey (1:44:57 AM): idk? I'm not people lmao
Koishi (1:45:47 AM): idk either xD if I wanted something known I would just tell the owner myself


Koishi (1:47:02 AM): it's not that I don't see the point of it xD
Koishi (1:47:09 AM): I am so burned out on writing for van it's ridic
Koishi (1:47:15 AM): since I've been writing basically by myself for a year now
Koishi (1:47:23 AM): it's just if we were to have a system like that
Koishi (1:47:29 AM): I would like it to be exceedingly simple
Facey (1:47:37 AM): ... a year? it was not a year that we were gone x_x
Koishi (1:47:40 AM): which is very difficult to accomplish given the parameters
Koishi (1:47:44 AM): 8 months
Koishi (1:47:45 AM): xD
Facey (1:47:58 AM): I will go get the dates later :-
Koishi (1:47:59 AM): I myself was gone for 4 of those so
Facey (1:48:05 AM): so... you can't even count 4 of them then x_X
Koishi (1:48:14 AM): yeah
Koishi (1:48:18 AM): cuz I burn out after a few months xD
Koishi (1:49:02 AM): I'm not like... vetoing the idea
Koishi (1:49:17 AM): I just want it to be simpler
Koishi (1:49:37 AM): ultimately that's what works in the end
Facey (1:49:49 AM): simpler is fairly easy to do ._. a lot more approachable
Facey (1:49:57 AM): I'll still try to get the people to just like
Facey (1:49:59 AM): tell you themselves
Facey (1:50:01 AM): in the meantime
Koishi (1:51:54 AM): okay xD; let me know
Facey (1:52:12 AM): yeees; gonna sleep now though xD starting to shiver like mad from exhaustion, hooray
Koishi (1:52:22 AM): LOL WHY DO YOU DO THIS TO YOURSELF
Koishi (1:52:25 AM): GO TO SLEEP
Facey (1:52:33 AM): BECAUSE I'M STUPID orz
Facey (1:52:36 AM): also I hate sleep
Facey (1:52:38 AM): sleep sucks
Koishi (1:52:41 AM): 8|
Facey (1:52:41 AM): ... xD GOING LOL
Koishi (1:52:48 AM): /waves xD





Koishi (2:18:09 AM): and thanks to you I totally used this line in a tag
"It was more that this kind of thing was insulting to their skill, like asking a tenryujin to chop wood for a living."
Koishi (4:35:42 AM): Also, I thought of a few ways the event lunarian idea might work - but it involves overturning a lot of the things you mentioned about the idea and a huge perspective shift xD; we will discuss it later I guess