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 Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 6:19 pm
I think Dante was right because Honeiham or what ever(ED's Dad) also agreed.
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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 6:42 pm
The Dark Ringmaster If you watched the episode saturday you would understand what I am talking about. Dante told Ed that the main law of alchemy is a lie that you don't need equilvilent exchange to get what you want. Do you believe in what she said or would you still go by the laws of alchemy no matter what others would say about it. i dont care >.< i just like watching the show
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Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 10:39 pm
I still think there's Equivalent Exchange for almost everythig. The only priceless thing is a human life. And about the half-trained person who passes the exam, and the person who always trains but fails, I have an explanation for that.
OK, here goes. Everything in life works under Touka Kouka no Kensoku. How? Take the example of the Alchemy test. OK, the person who trained a lot failed... but in a way life will pay that studying back. Maybe not passing the test, but something else that is also important for that person. It has happened to me, and maybe you should study your life to see if that has happened to you too. Now... when life gives you something bad... it will pay back with something good. If you give life something bad, it will either give you something bad or you have to do something equivalent, but good, to avoid that "retaliation". I hope you got all that sweatdrop
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Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 10:42 pm
WEll if i was ed and seen what happend when you broke the laws then id follow but i would need an arm choped off to learn my lesson
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Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 12:53 am
kikyo98 The Dark Ringmaster If you watched the episode saturday you would understand what I am talking about. Dante told Ed that the main law of alchemy is a lie that you don't need equilvilent exchange to get what you want. Do you believe in what she said or would you still go by the laws of alchemy no matter what others would say about it. I somewhat believe what dante says. Like... i do believe that not equivalent exchange doesn't always apply. For example, nothing can replace a life, nor can u put a price on life. However, the law does explain for other things, even things that happen to u in real life. For example, an A on a test... what was the price? The time you spent to spend for that test. i believe in what she says equivant exchang most of the time works.
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Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 10:01 pm
Allow me to correct myself.
I believe in equivalent exchange to a certain extent. Like i said, there are somethings u just can't put a price one. An example would be a person's life. Equivalent exchange can apply to lots of things, especially things dealing with chemistry. But using equivalent exchange and relating it to life is hard. Because life is unpredictable and can always change it's hard for the law to apply. In life, you can always have two choice; a positive and negative. An A on a test, if you study, u can pass and yet, u can still fail. There will always be a balance. Even if u don't study and yet u do pass the test, there's a person who ends up failing it to balance everything out. So equivalent exchange can apply to real life but only for certain things. It's hard to pinpoint those things when you're relating it to life.
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Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 10:15 pm
What Dante actually said was,"You can pay a price and not gain anything." Which is true. EE only goes so far..
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Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 8:31 am
kikyo98 The Dark Ringmaster If you watched the episode saturday you would understand what I am talking about. Dante told Ed that the main law of alchemy is a lie that you don't need equilvilent exchange to get what you want. Do you believe in what she said or would you still go by the laws of alchemy no matter what others would say about it. I somewhat believe what dante says. Like... i do believe that not equivalent exchange doesn't always apply. For example, nothing can replace a life, nor can u put a price on life. However, the law does explain for other things, even things that happen to u in real life. For example, an A on a test... what was the price? The time you spent to spend for that test. i agree with you
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Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 9:53 pm
I belive the law applies to a certain point . Like if someone has natural talent like Ed passes the test while someone who trained hard didn't it kinda can work but some things equal exchange just doesn't work like the concept of death no matter how hard you work and achive in life if you do good or rotten things you die so the equal exchange only wotks with alchemy of chemistry and not life itself
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 10:26 am
The Dark Ringmaster If you watched the episode saturday you would understand what I am talking about. Dante told Ed that the main law of alchemy is a lie that you don't need equilvilent exchange to get what you want. Do you believe in what she said or would you still go by the laws of alchemy no matter what others would say about it. i think that it would all depend on what you doing
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Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 9:05 pm
It can be a very controversial subject Im afraid. People can work all their lives to reach the top, only to slip up and fail, but one who hasn't done a decent thing in his life can come into power. Some things can be overlooked, (like Father/Founder Cornello and his red stone,) even if it comes back to bite you in the a**s at a later time (What had happened to his arm.) But overall some equivelence exists. Like when Ed transmutated part of his body in order to get Al's soul (and mind) or fragments of them anyways, he has blackouts about his past mind you. Also, matter cannot be created nor destroyed; however, it can be relocated, (see ep. 'Death') souls from beyond the Gate are used for energy to transmute. Where was the souls equivelency-if we are indeed describing equivelency in the real world? What did it gain? (Also ep. 'Death') The Ed on the other side had to die in order for the real one to come back. Equivelent, you might think, where was the other Ed's gain. One cannot take something from another, and then the other person getting the reward. Can one call that fair? As I said, this is a very touchy issue- even if we keep religion and poliitics out of this. sweatdrop
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 5:24 pm
The Dark Ringmaster If you watched the episode saturday you would understand what I am talking about. Dante told Ed that the main law of alchemy is a lie that you don't need equilvilent exchange to get what you want. Do you believe in what she said or would you still go by the laws of alchemy no matter what others would say about it.
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Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 6:57 pm
That is a good question but I think a part of what she said was true. But still if your a farmer (example my dad gave me when I was little) and you don't work hard on taking care of your crops and just let them get rained on then they wont grow. However if you take your part in the work they shall grow and you will have food on the table for your family. Now if something like a plague were to interfear then the plants won't grow at all and that would be noones fault. So in a way Dante was right but it still takes to halfs to make a whole 3nodding
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