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Super Panda454

PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 12:27 am


Innuendo aside, Im having trouble.
My friends and I have decided to cover a Electric six song for a friends 21st birthday bash. We have yet to play together, but for now we're just learning our respective parts.

The song is called Dance Commander, I don't know if any of you know the song. But the trouble is I can't get enough speed with out messing up.
Im having that trouble with plenty of songs, I can hit the notes in time and everything, its just that when I try and speed up the strings seem to hit something, giving a metalic twang to the sound. sad
Any tips on how to it the strings properly?
edit 12/03/2006
new problem see last post.
PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 7:03 am


Hit closer to the bottom of the fret and make sure you press hard enough.

sinis
Crew


Herr Kaiser Matthelm
Captain

PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:51 am


Just takes pratise my friend...More you play it, the better you will get at it,also what sinis sead...BTW, Dance Commander is a awesome song razz
PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 3:23 am


Hmmz, well I went by the music store, and the owner who sold me the bass gave me a few tips.
In essance I've stopped banging the strings so hard, so Im plucking softer and Im turning up the volume 3nodding

Super Panda454


Super Panda454

PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 1:17 pm


Well folks a firend came up with a suggestion. He says that the bassist in electric six uses palm muting at that point in the song...only one problem. I've learned it so far using my fingers, instead of a pick. gonk
Is there anyway I can play the song with my fingers and still mute the stings for that part?
I've been thinking of getting a thumb pick and then just switch styles when I need to mute?

Any suggestions?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 6:58 pm


ok man from now on, i am your helper k? anyway first off,
Quote:
Well folks a firend came up with a suggestion. He says that the bassist in electric six uses palm muting at that point in the song...only one problem. I've learned it so far using my fingers, instead of a pick.
Is there anyway I can play the song with my fingers and still mute the stings for that part?
I've been thinking of getting a thumb pick and then just switch styles when I need to mute?

Any suggestions?
its called palm muting for a reason...i cant actually show you, you know since were talking via gaia. but ill try, 1. place the part of your hand from your pinky to your wrist very near the bridge. 2. place your thump behind the pickup (if there is one there). 3. play with your index finger (if you dont want to play with a pick). and also remember that there is a study to picking on bass, in fact you can pick up a book from a music store if you have to.
as for your next statment,
Quote:
The song is called Dance Commander, I don't know if any of you know the song. But the trouble is I can't get enough speed with out messing up.
Im having that trouble with plenty of songs, I can hit the notes in time and everything, its just that when I try and speed up the strings seem to hit something, giving a metalic twang to the sound.
Any tips on how to it the strings properly?
alright, 1. the twang sound is frett-buzz, and sometimes (depending on the quality of your bass/strings) you cant help it. but the one way to combat it is to play more near the frett you're playing on. 2. if you're having trouble with speed, get a copy of the song and listen to it, then get a metranome and copy the BPM (beats per minute). then try playing your part in time. and a helpfull tip, in time you will be familiar with all of the notes and you will feel the notes before you play them, be one with the bass so to speak.
i hope i helped you 3nodding

osgood_schloter_boi


fuzbiisindustrial

PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 4:07 am


try not 2 bend the strings too much.. just press straight down on them...
PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 3:28 am


osgood_schloter_boi
ok man from now on, i am your helper k? anyway first off,
Quote:
Well folks a firend came up with a suggestion. He says that the bassist in electric six uses palm muting at that point in the song...only one problem. I've learned it so far using my fingers, instead of a pick.
Is there anyway I can play the song with my fingers and still mute the stings for that part?
I've been thinking of getting a thumb pick and then just switch styles when I need to mute?

Any suggestions?
its called palm muting for a reason...i cant actually show you, you know since were talking via gaia. but ill try, 1. place the part of your hand from your pinky to your wrist very near the bridge. 2. place your thump behind the pickup (if there is one there). 3. play with your index finger (if you dont want to play with a pick). and also remember that there is a study to picking on bass, in fact you can pick up a book from a music store if you have to.
as for your next statment,
Quote:
The song is called Dance Commander, I don't know if any of you know the song. But the trouble is I can't get enough speed with out messing up.
Im having that trouble with plenty of songs, I can hit the notes in time and everything, its just that when I try and speed up the strings seem to hit something, giving a metalic twang to the sound.
Any tips on how to it the strings properly?
alright, 1. the twang sound is frett-buzz, and sometimes (depending on the quality of your bass/strings) you cant help it. but the one way to combat it is to play more near the frett you're playing on. 2. if you're having trouble with speed, get a copy of the song and listen to it, then get a metranome and copy the BPM (beats per minute). then try playing your part in time. and a helpfull tip, in time you will be familiar with all of the notes and you will feel the notes before you play them, be one with the bass so to speak.
i hope i helped you 3nodding

Hey thanks for the advice, I'll give palm muting a go when I get home from work. I think I understand what needs to be done.

I have a new problem though guys. Well its not so much a problem, Im just wondering if there is anyway around it, or if there are any excersizes I can do.
Im trying to learn a Phil Collins song, 'Easy Lover', now its all very well and good howeving Im having great difficulty in playing this riff. Its like the sadistic b*****d who wrote the song wanted to hurt people or something. eek

CHORUS/SOLO:
|-------------------|
|*-3---3-1---3----|
|*---------4---4-3-|
|--------------------|
1 & a 2 & 3 4 &

So yeah, its quite a strech from the first fret to the forth fret. I can do it, sortof....but I can't do it fast enough when I use my pinky. And if I use my third finger I can get the speed but...eh...perhaps I just need to do what my mom says, practice it slow, then try and speed it up ? *shrug*
So is there anything I can do to combat cramping, does it get better?

Super Panda454


osgood_schloter_boi

PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 4:24 pm


well there is an excercise im doing, observe:

G ll -4-3-2-1-------------------------------------------------------------1-2-3-4-
D ll ----------4-3-2-1------------------------------------------1-2-3-4-----------
A ll --------------------4-3-2-1----------------------1-2-3-4---------------------
E ll ------------------------------4-3-2-1---1-2-3-4------------------------------

_______________________________________________________

and then move on to the next frett and do the same thing, only mix it up a little too, and use one finger at a time; use your index finger going down, and the middle finger going up, other way around if you want.
this is a real good excercise to do for 10 min. a day. builds finger streangth/speed, calus, precision, timing, and speed; everything you need!
PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 6:10 pm


Nice excercise Osgood. Seriously man, it just sounds like your main problems are you can't stretch and you can't go fast without fret buzz. Both of which just take practice to fix. I used to have problems with both seeing how I have seriously small hands and that I pluck really fuggin hard. Both have been corrected by lots and lots of practice.

Aahz
Crew


Super Panda454

PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 1:07 am


I'll give that a go.
What Im doing now is

G ll -------------------------------5-6-7-8-----------------------------
D ll ---------------------5-6-7-8---------------------------------------
A ll -----------5-6-7-8------------------------------------55-66-77-88
E ll --5-6-7-8------------------------------55-66-77-88---------------etc etc

But I'll add that excersise in too, just for variation. Thanks guys.
Since it was my 21st on Saturday I didn't really get a chance to practice properly. lol.
PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 2:00 pm


Super Panda
I'll give that a go.
What Im doing now is

G ll -------------------------------5-6-7-8-----------------------------
D ll ---------------------5-6-7-8---------------------------------------
A ll -----------5-6-7-8------------------------------------55-66-77-88
E ll --5-6-7-8------------------------------55-66-77-88---------------etc etc

But I'll add that excersise in too, just for variation. Thanks guys.
Since it was my 21st on Saturday I didn't really get a chance to practice properly. lol.

Congratulations! and that's only understandable.

Aahz
Crew


Super Panda454

PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 12:04 am


osgood_schloter_boi
well there is an excercise im doing, observe:

G ll -4-3-2-1-------------------------------------------------------------1-2-3-4-
D ll ----------4-3-2-1------------------------------------------1-2-3-4-----------
A ll --------------------4-3-2-1----------------------1-2-3-4---------------------
E ll ------------------------------4-3-2-1---1-2-3-4------------------------------

_______________________________________________________


Gee golly, well I tried that excersise out and I must say I like it. It feels like Im giving my left had a real work out. Thanks dude 3nodding
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