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Kyoushi_Harahara

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 1:42 am


I havent't felt the right wing "community" feeling in a while in here. Mostly due to inactivity I suspect. If you have any interesting articles of interest to share with us, please! We need some conversation. I'm getting tired of checking back in and there being absolutely no change.

I don't feel like any of you know me any better than when I started posting, because we havent all really had a chance to discuss!

What are some ways to increase activity/posting?

More and diverse threads
More recruits
More contreversy/rivalry?
More comradery?

What do you all think?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 1:50 am


I agree.

I'd like to see more activity going on here too.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 3:07 am


The problem is, there isn't anything big going on politically yet. it's all wait-and-see posturing. Since we have the upper hand, that just leaves the leftists to b**** and moan while we just get to watch and see what actually ends up happening.

In the meantime, support getting the US out of the UN, and the repeal of the 17th amendment.
PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 5:25 am


Forgive my ignorance but why repeal the 17th Amendment? I think the People electing politicians is better than other politicians electing politicians. For one thing, repealing the 17th Amendment would mean that the Senate would be influenced by state congressional district gerrymandering.

Isn't government convoluted enough?

C-ko Kotobuki


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 11:23 am


Aoi_Verde
Forgive my ignorance but why repeal the 17th Amendment? I think the People electing politicians is better than other politicians electing politicians. For one thing, repealing the 17th Amendment would mean that the Senate would be influenced by state congressional district gerrymandering.

Isn't government convoluted enough?


It is said that on his return from France, Jefferson called Washington to account at the breakfast-table for having agreed to a second chamber. 'Why,' asked Washington, 'did you pour that coffee into your saucer?' 'To cool it,' quoth Jefferson. 'Even so,' said Washington, 'we pour legislation into the senatorial saucer to cool it.'"

The Senate has been uniformly poorer and poorer at their job since the 17th passed. The fact that spending has skyrocketed along with taxes, pet programs that do nothing, and the filibustering of anything, especially appointees, shows to me that the honor and character of the Senate in its current state is up for debate.

If you ask me, the problem is the 17th amendment, which I feel has lowered the quality of the Senate as a whole. It was meant to be filled with statesmen accountable to those who understand the situations being elected officials themselves, rather than politicians beholden to a reactionary, self-serving and often uninformed public. In fact, my favorite Senator, Zell Miller, was not elected, but rather appointed on his merits. Accordingly, he has acted on his conscience rather than on what will or won't win him voters (since he was planning on retiring, and did not run for election afterwards). That tells me quite a bit about the role the Senate was meant to play, rather than being just another House of Representatives with a different structure.
PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 1:41 pm


"...rather than politicians beholden to a reactionary, self-serving and often uninformed public."

You are of the opinion that our elected officials are of superior character than the people who elect them. I take a dimmer view of politicians. Perhaps you're right and repealing the 17th Amendment would bring back fiscal responsibility to the Senate. Or perhaps the games would continue and the only result being a change in masters.

"New boss, same as the old boss..."

Are the state legislatures any more responsible than the general public?

Even if things worked out as happily as you think it will it would still only be a bandaid on the real festering wound. That is an entrenched mindset in government that thinks it's okay to spend more than it takes in to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars for an indefinite period of time. A mindest that it's fine to make speeches about fiscal responsibilty but when it comes time for the actual cuts you're on your soapbox talking about how cutting programs is immoral.

The problem of spending too much money is going to take a lot more than something as insignificant as repealing the 17th Admendment.

C-ko Kotobuki


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 2:17 pm


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